Profiling Right or Wrong? You decide...

**Jack87** · 05-26-2004, 07:22 PM

Grabbed this off another board... Makes you think...
Personally I have no problem with profiling, **** if
I look gulity I hope someone has the balls to stop
me too...
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What do you think about profiling?

Read below and some of you might change your mind.

Funny how HISTORY keeps coming back on itself. And please feel free to send this along the SUPER-INFORMATION HIGHWAY.
Subject: Profiling
Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.... no need to keep score.

The events are actual cuts from past history.
They actually happened!
Do you remember?
1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped & massacred by:
a. Olga Corbitt
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzeneger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70- year-old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in
his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Center, and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

Nope, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

**ripped4fsu** · 05-26-2004, 07:30 PM

No problem here...

**animal-inside** · 05-26-2004, 07:47 PM

blow them all up.....

**elicotton** · 05-26-2004, 07:56 PM

Jeez, don't get me started. Flame me if you want, but profiling is just common-sense police work. I have no patience for people who insist on being protected from every possible danger but want to want to handcuff the folks whose job it is to provide that protection.

**bad_man** · 05-26-2004, 08:07 PM

First, I think that profiling is a necessary method for both law enforcement and national defense.

Second, I think the initial post is a ridiculous argument to make.

**decadbal** · 05-26-2004, 08:13 PM

usually the ppl who cry profiling are doing something wrong, thats all minorities, a white guy in harlem at 2am is up to something. the same as a 17year old crackdealer in a cadilac. or a mexican sittin 100yards from texas/mexico line. its there bc statistically its a fact, not all apply, but usually they are right, then the crook uses it to be our system bc its set up to protect the POS and not help those who are robbed raped or murdered. i think profiling is a must, if im in a non-white ghetto and a cop sees me, plz stop me and redirect me, the same way if a guy goes into a store with a ski mask on his head, im dailin 911

**BigGreen** · 05-26-2004, 08:24 PM

I am ALL for profiling of every variety. When a serial killer is 'on the loose', they "profile" single white men aged 30-45, as they represent some 99% of all confirmed serial killers....but you don't see 30-45 year old white males protesting this act.

**inheritmylife** · 05-26-2004, 08:32 PM

Profiling takes place on a variety of levels. Felons are profiled out of government jobs. It only becomes a touchy subject when race or ethnicity are involved.

Profiling American citizens on the basis of race or ethnicity is in the grey area. However, profiling foreign tourists, foreign students on Visa, on the basis of race, ethnicity, nationality is a good idea. They arent American, they don't share our rights.

**bad_man** · 05-26-2004, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by BigGreen

I am ALL for profiling of every variety. When a serial killer is 'on the loose', they "profile" single white men aged 30-45, as they represent some 99% of all confirmed serial killers....but you don't see 30-45 year old white males protesting this act.

Us serial killers don't like that very much. There's just not enough of us to make much of a fuss. We need to get better organized.

**juicehoe** · 05-26-2004, 08:39 PM

Profiling is part of the game... no problems with it. Cops get statistics in each month... they know whos doing what by %'s

**Big Rush** · 05-26-2004, 08:42 PM

I hope they "profile" until their faces turn blue.......if profiling saves 1 life then it is worth it 10000%

**elicotton** · 05-26-2004, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by bad_man

Us serial killers don't like that very much. There's just not enough of us to make much of a fuss. We need to get better organized.

We're all such **** loners. I mean, we're all such nice guys, but just kinda quite and keep to ourselves. A union will be tough to pull off.

**jerseykid23** · 05-26-2004, 09:04 PM

Nice post Buff

**monstercojones** · 05-26-2004, 10:32 PM

profiling happens no matter what we think.

screw it. it works. thats all that really matters.

like decadbal said- if i'm cruising around a project in Newark at 2 a.m.... I am either up to no good or completely retarded and lost. so either way a cop had **** well better come over and strike up a conversation.

**Jack87** · 05-26-2004, 10:35 PM

Newark at 2am can be very interesting...
What could be wrong with that monsterco?

Originally Posted by monstercojones

if i'm cruising around a project in Newark at 2 a.m.... I am either up to no good or completely retarded and lost. so either way a cop had **** well better come over and strike up a conversation.

**doby48** · 05-26-2004, 10:59 PM

profiling is fine but if they are profiling i just wish they would admit it cause saying they aren't just makes them look like idiots. like at the airport the people they search is "random" yeah right. when i have a tan i have been told repeatedly that i look palestinian and wouldn't you know they stop me at the airport 3-4 times, when i have a layover thats 6-8 times total! i am of german decent and just tan really dark and if i look guilty then thats fine, but hey just admit what is really going on.

***SV-1*** · 05-26-2004, 11:03 PM

Profiling? Hell yes.

LM1332 · 05-27-2004, 12:51 AM

even though i wasnt born here i am all for it. Just makes my life hell a lot easier. Like there was an accident about 6 or so years ago when a black female pushed a man infront of the incoming subway nothing happend to her nobody said anything. But what would have happend if a white male pushed her under the train, i dont even wanna know

***50%Natural*** · 05-27-2004, 01:10 AM

profiling is america's greatest past time...next to baseball

there is nothing wrong with profiling imo...if they aren't doing anything wrong, then they're sent on their way..of course i'm biased obviously, because i haven't been there like blacks and all the others who get profiled

**palme** · 05-27-2004, 01:18 AM

I wish someone profiled me...

**Da Bull** · 05-27-2004, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by palme

I wish someone profiled me...

I assumed you were a gay pedofile....so yes you are profiled.

**palme** · 05-27-2004, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

I assumed you were a gay pedofile....so yes you are profiled.

You **** crossdresser, play nice or go home.

**Carlos_E** · 05-27-2004, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by decadbal

a white guy in harlem at 2am is up to something

You're obviously not from NYC.

FYI...

White people live in Harlem... lots of them.

**Jeremy34** · 05-27-2004, 03:09 AM

We need profiling if this nation is to stay on top. By the way, anyone remember the Muslim who was a US soldier and set off the grenade or whatever, injuring and killing US soldiers, back last year sometime I think? Was he court martialed and hanged?? The liberal news media hasn't said a **** word about what happened with that.

LM1332 · 05-27-2004, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Jeremy34

We need profiling if this nation is to stay on top. By the way, anyone remember the Muslim who was a US soldier and set off the grenade or whatever, injuring and killing US soldiers, back last year sometime I think? Was he court martialed and hanged?? The liberal news media hasn't said a **** word about what happened with that.

I remember that and true i never heard what happend to him...hmm

***BajanBastard*** · 05-27-2004, 05:26 AM

Profiling makes sense, and can be used as a great tool to stop crime IF it is used properly IMO.

**Blown_SC** · 05-27-2004, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Profiling makes sense, and can be used as a great tool to stop crime IF it is used properly IMO.

Agreed...
It can be beneficial, if PROPERLY used...

**inheritmylife** · 05-27-2004, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by doby48

profiling is fine but if they are profiling i just wish they would admit it cause saying they aren't just makes them look like idiots. like at the airport the people they search is "random" yeah right. when i have a tan i have been told repeatedly that i look palestinian and wouldn't you know they stop me at the airport 3-4 times, when i have a layover thats 6-8 times total! i am of german decent and just tan really dark and if i look guilty then thats fine, but hey just admit what is really going on.

They don't profile at the airport by race. Its cute that you think that they are profiling you because of your tan, but it simply isnt true.

**Mart651** · 05-27-2004, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

You're obviously not from NYC.

FYI...

White people live in Harlem... lots of them.

I lived in NYC for 9 months. They are some places in harlem that if you are a white person walking around you are up to something. I think that was a example anyway.

Car load of black kids riding around in my neighbor hood and yoy can bet your ass they are up to something.

Me and a bunch of white friends riding around the courts you can bet your ass we are looking for something.

**tryingtogetbig** · 05-27-2004, 08:00 AM

....very nice post buff......

peace,

ttgb

**Carlos_E** · 05-27-2004, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Martha

I lived in NYC for 9 months. They are some places in harlem that if you are a white person walking around you are up to something. I think that was a example anyway.

I'm not sure how long ago you lived in NYC. Harlem is one of the "new trendy in spots" to live. Lots of white college kids from Columbia and other Universities in the city live in Harlem.

There's plenty of new restaurants, theaters, stores and bars. Starbucks, HMV Records, 2 large stadium seating movie theaters, a Disney store, H&M Department store, M.A.C. cosmetic store, Foot Locker, a new shopping mall.... The list goes on. So most likely the car full of white people you see in Harlem are either shopping, headed home or on their way to a bar.

***BajanBastard*** · 05-27-2004, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by inheritmylife

They don't profile at the airport by race. Its cute that you think that they are profiling you because of your tan, but it simply isnt true.

Nope not cause you look arab at all....

**bad_man** · 05-27-2004, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

I'm not sure how long ago you lived in NYC. Harlem is one of the "new trendy in spots" to live. Lots of white college kids from Columbia and other Universities in the city live in Harlem.

There's plenty of new restaurants, theaters, stores and bars. Starbucks, HMV Records, 2 large stadium seating movie theaters, a Disney store, H&M Department store, M.A.C. cosmetic store, Foot Locker, a new shopping mall.... The list goes on. So most likely the car full of white people you see in Harlem are either shopping, headed home or on their way to a bar.

Bill Clinton's office is in Harlem. But he's probably up to something too.

**Mart651** · 05-27-2004, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

I'm not sure how long ago you lived in NYC. Harlem is one of the "new trendy in spots" to live. Lots of white college kids from Columbia and other Universities in the city live in Harlem.

There's plenty of new restaurants, theaters, stores and bars. Starbucks, HMV Records, 2 large stadium seating movie theaters, a Disney store, H&M Department store, M.A.C. cosmetic store, Foot Locker, a new shopping mall.... The list goes on. So most likely the car full of white people you see in Harlem are either shopping, headed home or on their way to a bar.

It has been a while so I could imagine the changes.

Its just like those white people. As soon as they started cleaning it up and making it a nice place the white people come out like cock roaches and take over.

**Carlos_E** · 05-27-2004, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by bad_man

Bill Clinton's office is in Harlem. But he's probably up to something too.

Indeed.

**Carlos_E** · 05-27-2004, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Martha

Its just like those white people. As soon as they started cleaning it up and making it a nice place the white people come out like cock roaches and take over.

No, they're not taking over. Harlem has a nice racial mix and that's what makes it a fun place to be.

How nice of you to refer to a group of people as cock roaches. Since you're white and referring to whites, I guess it's OK for you to do so. Unless you're expressing self hatred.

**Carlos_E** · 05-27-2004, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by inheritmylife

They don't profile at the airport by race. Its cute that you think that they are profiling you because of your tan, but it simply isnt true.

Every time I travel I'm always searched. It's become a running joke with my friends because they never get searched. We actually get to the airport extra early because we know it's going to take me so long to get through the security check points. I don't think I look like a terrorist. My friends think it's because of my size but I'm not that big. So they think it's my size and color. I have no clue. Hell if I ever travel with rambo I doubt they would let us on the plane.

So I'm sure there are plenty of guys bigger than me on the board. Do you guys always get searched in airports?

**bad_man** · 05-27-2004, 08:23 AM

I think we're getting off topic here but I love Harlem. I have an office in Manhattan and whenever I go there for an extended stay we always spend a night or two in Harlem. I've never felt uncomfortable and if I was any more white, I'd be clear. I agree with Carlos that it has a nice racial mix. That makes for some great restaurants and some cool hangout spots.

**bad_man** · 05-27-2004, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

Every time I travel I'm always searched. It's become a running joke with my friends because they never get searched. We actually get to the airport extra early because we know it's going to take me so long to get through the security check points. I don't think I look like a terrorist. My friends think it's because of my size but I'm not that big. So they think it's my size and color. I have no clue. Hell if I ever travel with rambo I doubt they would let us on the plane.

So I'm sure there are plenty of guys bigger than me on the board. Do you guys always get searched in airports?

I ALWAYS get searched. In Seattle, they took me to another room and had me strip down to my boxers.

**Mart651** · 05-27-2004, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Carlos_E

No, they're not taking over. Harlem has a nice racial mix and that's what makes it a fun place to be.

How nice of you to refer to a group of people as cock roaches. Since you're white and referring to whites, I guess it's OK for you to do so. Unless you're expressing self hatred.

dude. if you could get a sense of humor you would not be so bitter. I bet you are the life of the party.