Lance is the man!

**usualsuspect** · 07-25-2004, 02:51 PM

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Not a cycling fan but any means, but have tremendous respect for this guy. He's what a true champion is in my book. He not only won a record of six Tour de France's but he fought testicular cancer at the age of 24 and won. All his achievements in the sport of cycling are all the result of years of hard work and practicing harder than his competitors. Compared to some of the athletes we have today in other sports (particularly basketball) who have all the talent in the world and still fill the airwaves with garbage talk and bad role modeling-this guy is a cut above the rest and a true class act for sports.

ttuPrincess · 07-25-2004, 02:53 PM

support his cause too.. go buy a yellow wristband at footlocker, or champs, or such ..they are only a dollar..

www.wearyellow.com

**punk_bbuilder** · 07-25-2004, 02:53 PM

He gets a very big "atta boy"!!...def. the man and a legend.

**punk_bbuilder** · 07-25-2004, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by ttuPrincess

support his cause too.. go buy a yellow wristband at footlocker, or champs, or such ..they are only a dollar..

www.wearyellow.com

I have one on right now

says livestrong on it.

ttuPrincess · 07-25-2004, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by punk_bbuilder

I have one on right now

says livestrong on it.

Me too!

**dirtybrit55** · 07-25-2004, 03:06 PM

'EPO Armstrong' is what the bitter french call him. You know that the cycle game is massively into blood doping etc...

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 07-25-2004, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by ttuPrincess

support his cause too.. go buy a yellow wristband at footlocker, or champs, or such ..they are only a dollar..

www.wearyellow.com

Thats awesome..... thanks for the link. Im gonna buy a couple today. He truly is an inspiration and an ambassador of the sport. I am not a cycling fan, nor did I watch the event, but I am a sports enthusiast and will be the first to tell you that that what he accomplished is truly remarkable.

Atta Boy Lance - Go USA

**skinjob** · 07-25-2004, 04:33 PM

oh i am FUMING!! i feel a post cycle rant steaming in.

I posted on this subject before. Anyone who has a clue about how utterly gruelling cycling is would never make such a glib and populist statement (dirtybrit55)

EPO Armstrong what a load of rubbish. i spend 1 week of every month in france. my father-in-law is a champion french cyclist who now works for campagnolo. my family and i socialise with a lot people in cycling and have been involved in the sport for most of my life. DRUGS are a part of EVERY endurance sport these and have been for days. Are you forgetting how our own Tommy Simpson died of heart failure on Mont Ventoux wired off his tits? That was in the sixties

Dont try to cast aspersions on the French or on Armstrong. Armstrong is one of the most popular foreign winners of the Tour since the Roche era. His struggle against enormous personal dds and his superb acheivements in the Tour championed across Europe. I am sick of hearing snyde anti-french statements that are gleaned from two snotty articles when the vast majority of french people clearly respect the acheivements of this fine sportsman. EVERY pro and ex pro i know in cycling has nothing but admiration for this man. He is loved. The french were rightly elated when Virenque won the Bastille Day stage on top of the mountain at St Claire. This never took anything away from their admiration for Armstrong who is a true master of all the main disciplines (he won SIX stages which is a lot for a present day winner eg. look at Indurains record)

Note the doping/armstrong nonsense surfaced BEFORE the tour in A BOOK ABOUT ARMSTRONG.

2. US POSTAL team sought legal action against the publisher seeking to have a note placed in everY inner cover of the book stating that Armstrong had never taken drugs despite testing positive (all cyclists test + from time to time for all sorts of stuff).
The US Postal team were unable to prove that Armstrong uses or has used drugs. Two cycling papers - Le Equipe and another one (i forget which) ran stories about the CONTROVERSY not the actual matter of did he or did he not.

Jean Marie Leblanc, the directeur sportif of the tour was aware of the book and said it had no bearing on Armstrongs admission into the tour. IF Armstrong was hated by the French he would never have made it into the Tour as the Tour is HEAVILY politicised.

On L'Alpe D'Huez" Leblanc denounced some moroccan spectators who were harassing the peleton "There were lots of aggressive fans surrounding the riders and I even saw two idiots spit at Lance Armstrong." Needless to say they were dealt with accordingly!

2. Also prior to the tour David Millar, a Scottish cyclist who is hte UKs Number 1 cyclist has been held up in the UK as a tour stage contender tested + and he along with his Cofidis team were excluded from ENTRY into the Tour. The french love the Scot but it aint the point!

from the Guardian: "As reigning individual world time-trial champion and a three-times stage winner in the Tour de France, Millar has become cycling's most high-profile casualty of a police drugs investigation since the Festina scandal of 1998. He is also the first Briton to fall from grace in the current wave of investigations within cycling."

Not a single paper in the UK suggested that the french were out to get him (they were not!) - its simply that he took gear, tested + and got CAUGHT VERY PUBLICLY!

ROCHE,HINAULT,FIGNON,LEMOND,DELGADO,INDURAIN,KELLY THE LIST GOES ON. THEY ALL TESTED + MANY TIMES.

BUT

NO AMOUNT OF DRUGS WILL TURN THE WHEELS BY THEMSELVES!!!! EVERY TEAM HAS ITS OWN PEOPLE. ARMSTRONG IS A TRUE CHAMPION AND THAT IS WHAT CYCLISTS AND THE FRENCH THINK OF HIM. SO DO I!!!

why bother ranting? well i love the sport of cycling and i love armstrong! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

**skinjob** · 07-25-2004, 04:36 PM

Still Growling !!!

**craneboy** · 07-25-2004, 04:41 PM

the guy that still rides a bike?

**twosocks40** · 07-25-2004, 08:09 PM

He is the man. NO doubt.

-B

**houseofpain** · 07-25-2004, 08:13 PM

he has accomplished the unthinkable. go Lance.

**Phillyboy1** · 07-25-2004, 08:14 PM

bravo lance, you are definatly the man

**Kato** · 07-25-2004, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by skinjob

Still Growling !!!

bro, i love ur passion on this subject! its cool as fuk.

you had a statement in onther thread similar to this and it went somethin like...

i know i can make the pain go away, alls i have to do is stop pedalin! man i love that statement!

**Isaiah1SAS** · 07-25-2004, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by skinjob

oh i am FUMING!! i feel a post cycle rant steaming in.

I posted on this subject before. Anyone who has a clue about how utterly gruelling cycling is would never make such a glib and populist statement (dirtybrit55)

EPO Armstrong what a load of rubbish. i spend 1 week of every month in france. my father-in-law is a champion french cyclist who now works for campagnolo. my family and i socialise with a lot people in cycling and have been involved in the sport for most of my life. DRUGS are a part of EVERY endurance sport these and have been for days. Are you forgetting how our own Tommy Simpson died of heart failure on Mont Ventoux wired off his tits? That was in the sixties

Dont try to cast aspersions on the French or on Armstrong. Armstrong is one of the most popular foreign winners of the Tour since the Roche era. His struggle against enormous personal dds and his superb acheivements in the Tour championed across Europe. I am sick of hearing snyde anti-french statements that are gleaned from two snotty articles when the vast majority of french people clearly respect the acheivements of this fine sportsman. EVERY pro and ex pro i know in cycling has nothing but admiration for this man. He is loved. The french were rightly elated when Virenque won the Bastille Day stage on top of the mountain at St Claire. This never took anything away from their admiration for Armstrong who is a true master of all the main disciplines (he won SIX stages which is a lot for a present day winner eg. look at Indurains record)

Note the doping/armstrong nonsense surfaced BEFORE the tour in A BOOK ABOUT ARMSTRONG.

2. US POSTAL team sought legal action against the publisher seeking to have a note placed in everY inner cover of the book stating that Armstrong had never taken drugs despite testing positive (all cyclists test + from time to time for all sorts of stuff).
The US Postal team were unable to prove that Armstrong uses or has used drugs. Two cycling papers - Le Equipe and another one (i forget which) ran stories about the CONTROVERSY not the actual matter of did he or did he not.

Jean Marie Leblanc, the directeur sportif of the tour was aware of the book and said it had no bearing on Armstrongs admission into the tour. IF Armstrong was hated by the French he would never have made it into the Tour as the Tour is HEAVILY politicised.

On L'Alpe D'Huez" Leblanc denounced some moroccan spectators who were harassing the peleton "There were lots of aggressive fans surrounding the riders and I even saw two idiots spit at Lance Armstrong." Needless to say they were dealt with accordingly!

2. Also prior to the tour David Millar, a Scottish cyclist who is hte UKs Number 1 cyclist has been held up in the UK as a tour stage contender tested + and he along with his Cofidis team were excluded from ENTRY into the Tour. The french love the Scot but it aint the point!

from the Guardian: "As reigning individual world time-trial champion and a three-times stage winner in the Tour de France, Millar has become cycling's most high-profile casualty of a police drugs investigation since the Festina scandal of 1998. He is also the first Briton to fall from grace in the current wave of investigations within cycling."

Not a single paper in the UK suggested that the french were out to get him (they were not!) - its simply that he took gear, tested + and got CAUGHT VERY PUBLICLY!

ROCHE,HINAULT,FIGNON,LEMOND,DELGADO,INDURAIN,KELLY THE LIST GOES ON. THEY ALL TESTED + MANY TIMES.

BUT

NO AMOUNT OF DRUGS WILL TURN THE WHEELS BY THEMSELVES!!!! EVERY TEAM HAS ITS OWN PEOPLE. ARMSTRONG IS A TRUE CHAMPION AND THAT IS WHAT CYCLISTS AND THE FRENCH THINK OF HIM. SO DO I!!!

why bother ranting? well i love the sport of cycling and i love armstrong! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Armstrong has a kind of PERFECT HOMEOSTASIS-- he is a good role model. He has excellent personal standards of conduct. He is the leader of a world class team. He does overcome. Sure he supplements his nutrition and whatever he uses is not part of any test that authority has used to disqualify him. He is qualified. He is a champion. The government has installed automated governmental demographic surveillance within the US Post Office resulting in a LOT of postal problems overthe years so much so that going postal is part of the American Lexicon-- Armstrong is good for PUBLIC RELATIONS at the US Post Office and he puts a new face on going POSTAL. He is a world class athlete.

**skinjob** · 07-25-2004, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Kato

bro, i love ur passion on this subject! its cool as fuk.

you had a statement in onther thread similar to this and it went somethin like...

i know i can make the pain go away, alls i have to do is stop pedalin! man i love that statement!

thanks kato

i dunno if the quote is actually mine, but i do remember saying the wheels dont turn by themselves

**Mr. Death** · 07-25-2004, 11:45 PM

I gotta give it up to Lance. I am worn out after riding my bike for 10 minutes on flat land. What those riders do in the mountains is unbelieveable to me.

**monstercojones** · 07-25-2004, 11:55 PM

i definately have great respect for lance armstrong. it must suck going on tv and knowing that the enitre audience knows you only have one testicle though.

US- hows your situation working out? shoot me a PM or IM with an update.

**palme** · 07-26-2004, 12:47 AM

His a god athlet, no doubt in my mind that is using something doh. But its part of the game.

**skinjob** · 07-26-2004, 05:42 PM

i really dont beleive that lacking a testicle is going to bother Lance that much seeing as he still won a RECORD 6 CONSECUTIVE TOURS!!

**Isaiah1SAS** · 07-26-2004, 06:00 PM

The most admirable quality world class Champion Lance Armstrong role models is fatherhood. He is a good father. 'roid rage , cares of the world, and distractions notwithstanding every man needs to saddle up and emulate this genuine modern American role model in that regard-- it is never too late. I'm learning from him. Everything he supplements with cannot be detected by revealed authority testing. I'm not saying he is 100% natural, because the mail list consortium using the US Post Office for a front needs a champion like Armstrong. Whatever he is doing DOES NOT cause him rage and this is worthy of close evaluation. He should reveal his nutrition secrets and he has already made it known that the core of his success resides with TEAM support. As I think of it, this applies to JUICE-- nobody should shoot-up alone or at least without a pre-flight check list. An individual posted in another forum difficulty understanding syringe fill level and was concerned about over dose. Bogus or not-- his post raises a real threat. One that must be dealt with because POOR PREPARATION KILLS and is how come pilots land with their gear-up and doctors amputate or remove the wrong body parts on occasion.

***50%Natural*** · 07-26-2004, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by ttuPrincess

support his cause too.. go buy a yellow wristband at footlocker, or champs, or such ..they are only a dollar..

www.wearyellow.com

me and my 2 roomates are headin over to footlocker tomorrow to pick em up....

Spyder · 07-26-2004, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by punk_bbuilder

I have one on right now

says livestrong on it.

mine too.

**tryingtogetbig** · 07-26-2004, 08:34 PM

....I still would have liked to have been standing next to the 2 german spectators when they spit on Lance as he rode by......

***50%Natural*** · 07-26-2004, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by tryingtogetbig

....I still would have liked to have been standing next to the 2 german spectators when they spit on Lance as he rode by......

their just pissed cause they are always gettin their ass whupped by americans

**Isaiah1SAS** · 07-27-2004, 11:56 AM

How come Germans spat at him? When did that happen ? Is Germany planning to open up a postal service in the US and France or were they just poor sport disgruntled spectators with an axe to grind because Deutschland is not uber alles ??

**slizzut** · 07-27-2004, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Isaiah1SAS

How come Germans spat at him? When did that happen ? Is Germany planning to open up a postal service in the US and France or were they just poor sport disgruntled spectators with an axe to grind because Deutschland is not uber alles ??

They're just bitter and jealous.

**palme** · 07-27-2004, 12:11 PM

The guy that came in #2 was German.

**Isaiah1SAS** · 07-27-2004, 01:35 PM

OK. He can race again next year if he wants. It's just a sporting event. Maybe Europeans takes ports as seriously as the US takes Vaccs/ D/U and war. I've heard people kill each other over soccer... Maybe they are looking for something to believe in worth fighting for. Perhaps it is spreading in to the cycling sport.

**chris64** · 08-22-2004, 11:04 AM

I consider Lance Armstrong to be more dominant in his sport than anyone has ever been in any sport. The stats he has that are important to an athelete in a sport like that (vo2 max, power to weight, max watts, max sustainable watts, etc.) are all off the chart, and most of them have been since he was a kid. The main difference after cancer was his increase in power to weight (no decrease in power but 20-25 pounds less weight), which made him the best climber in the world. but remember, he didnt just show up out of nowhere. he had always been dangerous on the flats and was a world champion before the cancer. I think that people like Greg Lemond have a vested interest in questioning his natural talent, because lets face it, in a few years when you're shopping for a good road bike are you going to buy a Lemond, or an Armstrong?