08-31-2004, 04:18 PM #1
OK, just watched Fahrenheit 9/11 - This is what it made me think.
As i said, i just watched the film/documentry. To start with it made me upset through a few parts, especially near the end where the American parents were talking about their lost sons ans daughters. That bit got to me when they were crying.
Things i learned through the movie are:
Bush quite simply does not have a clue
The war was a complete fake, based around money and oil
Several companies throughout the States gained through the war
I do not want to lose someone in my family to something so pointless
Money rules everything
Most people have an opinion, alot of people dont. Lead and you are assured that someone will follow you
African Americans feel they were cheated
Oh and Bush is an idiot
I wanted to see this film, im aware there is some percentage of bias and propaganda.
From an outsider looking in that is what i saw.
08-31-2004, 04:28 PM #2Originally Posted by MESSY_UK
At least you learned something.
08-31-2004, 04:36 PM #3
of course you are going to learn to hate bush by watching a movie made to make him look bad. the producer is one of the most evil, piece of sh!t people walking the face of gods green earth. did you expect to walk away with a positive outlook on bush? come on bro had you watched a movies made by republicans making bush look good you would have a completely different view point.
08-31-2004, 04:38 PM #4Originally Posted by houseofpain
Yea i am just saying how the film left me feeling, and what i said seems to be the general concensus. (or however you spell it)
08-31-2004, 04:41 PM #5Originally Posted by houseofpain
I agree bro! The film was very bias to say the least! Plus no disrespect, but ur not from here and u cant really judge President Bush just from watching that trash.
08-31-2004, 04:43 PM #6Originally Posted by OGPackin
Yea man i know, understand. Im from the UK, blah blah. Just saying, there is alot of people who are not from the States who would of been influenced to feel or to think differently after seeing that film.
08-31-2004, 04:46 PM #7Originally Posted by MESSY_UK
I wouldnt say general consensus. Well, maybe general in the UK, where anti-American sentiment is high and anti-GW sentiment is even higher. Moore is a highly skilled filmaker with an extremely radical l***ral agenda, much like the rest of the American media. Very few points that he makes can be supported by fact, which I found out for myself after doing my own homework on the subject instead of allowing a talking pig to write history for me.
08-31-2004, 04:46 PM #8
we are at war, nobody likes war. therefore, folks are going to protest war and what better way to do so than by attacking our commander in chief. some of these **** tree huggers need to get their heads out of their asses and understand that SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT. we are a safer nation today with Sadam sitting in a prison cell. Libia has been collecting materials and making WMD'S for years now, since the war on terror they have since ceased, i sleep better at night knowing these facts.
08-31-2004, 04:48 PM #9
RUDY RUDY RUDY>>>>>
RUDY handed Kerry his ass last night, and John McCain handed him his balls, and tonight Arnolds gonna tear him a new one... can you say hostalavista baby!
08-31-2004, 04:48 PM #10
Can someone please explain to me why the word l***ral is being censored by this site? Am I losing my friggin mind?
08-31-2004, 04:48 PM #11
Yep totally see what your sayin guys. Im one of them people that thinks if its gonna happen its gonna happen, if we're gonna get bombed its gonna happen. I believe that everything is set out in a pattern and we just follow it.
08-31-2004, 04:49 PM #12Originally Posted by MESSY_UK
Yes i agree with u 100% about it influencing people like u outside the US. But the International news is already doing that. We dont need someone like Micheal Moore helping...
08-31-2004, 04:50 PM #13
I-B-E? Is that it? Thats a pretty common letter combination, kind of hard to work around. Kills my vocab.
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08-31-2004, 04:53 PM #14Originally Posted by inheritmylife
08-31-2004, 05:25 PM #15
I'm downloading this movie as we speak. I have wanted to see it but just never got off my lazy ass to get over to the theater. I hope it's as good as Bowling for Columbine.
08-31-2004, 05:28 PM #16Originally Posted by MESSY_UK
1. Bush knows way more than you think....and i promise you he doesn't care if you think he's an idiot...
2. The war was because saddam was not letting inspectors in and we knew he had weapons....we gave them to him....then gave him enough time to hide the in syria....to please the l***rals....
3. Well heII yeah they gained....my taxes dollars payed for that war....we better gain something....dumbass....
4. Ridding the world of a ruthless killer is not pointless....maybe to you but the uk isn't the U.S.....nuff said....
5. Money rules everything? your just now figuring that out?
6. Well if black people feel cheated then i guess they should vote...huh?
7. I guess when you have nothing else worth saying you call my president an idiot....very classy....at least were not from the uk....
08-31-2004, 05:33 PM #17Originally Posted by houseofpain
so dont they ?
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08-31-2004, 05:39 PM #19Originally Posted by TRLS63
there was nothing to gain in rwanda....or somalia....or grenada....and if my tax dollars are going to pay for it we better get something....i'm sick and tired of the worls talking sh!t about us but expecting us to save the day when their asses are being invaded....fook that from now on we need to take care of our own and screw the world....
i would rather have a troop of boy scouts.....
08-31-2004, 05:41 PM #20
I would like to quote an article I read recently....
"To descr*** this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To descr*** this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental...."
That is exactly my feeling on this film...
08-31-2004, 05:52 PM #21Originally Posted by HeartDocMD
08-31-2004, 05:58 PM #22
L***ral. Descr***. Imb***. Tr***. Br***.
08-31-2004, 05:59 PM #23Originally Posted by rambo
08-31-2004, 06:07 PM #24
phuck micheal moorer
08-31-2004, 07:09 PM #25
Didn't bush cut federal aid to NY schools by something like 1.2 billion? Thoes kids who suffer now are going to rob me in ten years..
08-31-2004, 07:34 PM #26Originally Posted by DADDYDBOL
08-31-2004, 07:52 PM #27Originally Posted by rambo
08-31-2004, 08:35 PM #28
I saw the movie and both my wife and I were bored to tears and left. I personally don't think the film was made to make Bush look bad it just presented footage that sometimes the media fails to show. Just gave you a few things to think about. Either way I think Bush is a dumbass but has done a great job! !
08-31-2004, 09:34 PM #29Originally Posted by houseofpain
08-31-2004, 09:44 PM #30Originally Posted by Elliot
09-01-2004, 01:06 AM #31Originally Posted by MESSY_UK
09-01-2004, 01:18 AM #32
You officially get 1 star from me for a shytty thread....and on a side note, you need to get educated but i won't hold it against you. After all, you're still young and probably still rely on your parent's opinions as the basis for all your ideology.
09-01-2004, 02:20 AM #33Originally Posted by houseofpain
thats my retort.
09-01-2004, 02:48 AM #34Originally Posted by MESSY_UK
Jeez, im only telling you from what i saw in the movie this is the impression that i got. Im not saying that is from now on what i believe. Im showing you how that movie can influence alot of people.
Dont be so quick to jumb and start callin people dumbass etc.
09-01-2004, 02:49 AM #35Originally Posted by 50%Natural
You couldn't be more wrong.
09-01-2004, 02:59 AM #36Member
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bush is an idoit and the movie just proves it more, it's just hard to argue with a bunch of republicans. Just think what bush did to your boy Tony Blair, and he seemed like a very respectable and good leader.
Bush is a jackass plain and simple and he shouldn't be heading our country with quick to jump, stupid, uninformed information.
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09-01-2004, 06:01 AM #37Originally Posted by radar1234
your canadian response means nothing, so keep it in canada with the rest of the tree huggers. michael moore is nothing more than a fat big mouthed piece of lying l!beral trash.
09-01-2004, 06:19 AM #38Originally Posted by houseofpain
09-01-2004, 06:24 AM #39Originally Posted by Flasher
09-01-2004, 06:40 AM #40Originally Posted by houseofpain
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