What do you mean, small!

**BigJames** · 03-24-2005, 10:58 AM

So, I went and got my vasectomy in late Feb and all went well. Surprisingly painless, no scalpel, no needles procedure. It took all of 8 minutes to complete. Now, here is the wierd part. Just before the surgery the doc is checking out my hardware to find the vas, etc. and asks me if anyone has ever told me that my testicles are a little small. He then asks me if I have used steroids . Now, I am natural, I have my first cycle sitting in a box at home. I tell him that I am natural and he asks if someone could have slipped me some without me knowing, which I think is absurd (but there was that girl at the gym who brought me that opened drink...LOL). Anyway, he tells me I should get my test levels tested ASAP. This concerned my a little in that I have not yet done any AAS yet he is concerned about atrophy. He did say that it may be that they are just working really efficiently. So I am booking a physical for next week and I am going to insist on blood work for Test levels. What I want to know is, I am natural, 230lbs, and muscular...could my natural test possibly be low? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

**hung-solo** · 03-24-2005, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by BigJames

So, I went and got my vasectomy in late Feb and all went well. Surprisingly painless, no scalpel, no needles procedure. It took all of 8 minutes to complete. Now, here is the wierd part. Just before the surgery the doc is checking out my hardware to find the vas, etc. and asks me if anyone has ever told me that my testicles are a little small. He then asks me if I have used steroids. Now, I am natural, I have my first cycle sitting in a box at home. I tell him that I am natural and he asks if someone could have slipped me some without me knowing, which I think is absurd (but there was that girl at the gym who brought me that opened drink...LOL). Anyway, he tells me I should get my test levels tested ASAP. This concerned my a little in that I have not yet done any AAS yet he is concerned about atrophy. He did say that it may be that they are just working really efficiently. So I am booking a physical for next week and I am going to insist on blood work for Test levels. What I want to know is, I am natural, 230lbs, and muscular...could my natural test possibly be low? Anyone have any thoughts on this?

no thoughts you just might have a small package.. not pleasing the ladies? get the giggles why you are in the middle of hanlin' biness?? hahaha just picking man, wait till the tests are done.. post some stats, ever done aas?

**Pale Horse** · 03-24-2005, 11:10 AM

yes your levels could be low, and the size of your nuts do not reflect their usefullness or output of sperm.

**hung-solo** · 03-24-2005, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by 1victor

yes your levels could be low, and the size of your nuts do not reflect their usefullness or output of sperm.

well i have big nutts but not much sperm.. why is that vic?

**Pale Horse** · 03-24-2005, 11:13 AM

I really have no idea why it can work that way but it does.

**hung-solo** · 03-24-2005, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by 1victor

I really have no idea why it can work that way but it does.

it sucks you would think that i could knockover a 5 gallon bucket but i would be lucky to fill up a thimbal

**Juggernaut** · 03-24-2005, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by hung-solo

well i have big nutts but not much sperm.. why is that vic?

You have a tiny penis. I didn't know how else to say it without sounding mean.

**Pale Horse** · 03-24-2005, 11:17 AM

Juggy I am sporting your flag!

**BigJames** · 03-24-2005, 11:20 AM

I am not worried about sperm production, already have two beautiful children, and this "condition" has had no effect on me that I am aware of as far as functionality is concerned. I have a solid sex drive and no problems getting it up and delivering. I would not have thought that size of testicles would mean too much, but it concerned me that a doctor would think this was a concern. The only thing I am thinking is that he thinks I have done AAS and therefore the size is a result of atrophy and therefore my natty test might be low. I booked a physical for April 1...we shall see.

Hey 1vic, if my natty levels are low, how am I able to build muscle? I would think that it would be hard to build up mass without your natty test to help...are there symptoms I could look for of slightly low test production? What are the medical solutions to this problem? HRT? HCG ? Anyone know?

Stats:

29 Years Old
230 lbs
6'1"
not sure what else to include.

When I hit puberty I developed some adolesent gyno, but it cleared up when I was like 14 years old. I have always been a little chubby growing up, but that went away when I got taller. I have never been lean, but I am not fat either...I would guess BF% at about 15-17%

**BigJames** · 03-24-2005, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by hung-solo

well i have big nutts but not much sperm.. why is that vic?

Sperm and the amount you ejaculate are not really related. The ejaculate is mostly semen which comes from ducts near your prostate as far as I know. I checked this out before the vasectomy...I wanted to be sure that I would still be firing loads after the surgery...absolutely no change from before to after.

**IronFreakX** · 03-24-2005, 11:25 AM

i heard somewhere u could have low test with more steroid receptors or smth so u would grow more than some1 who has alot of test but less recpetors not sure tho
ps
i aint a doc but i think ur test levels aint low from wut u said
good luck

**J-F** · 03-24-2005, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by BigJames

not sure what else to include.

What size are they ?

**Pale Horse** · 03-24-2005, 11:27 AM

Yes you can still build muscle with low test, it is harder for sure, if you have low test natty and you go on AS you will be amazed at the results. HCG 500 mcg every 3 days 3 to four times should enlarge them nicely.

Symptoms of low test are depression, moodiness, sleeplessness, easily gaining body fat, lethargy, those are the main ones IMO

**Testify** · 03-24-2005, 11:29 AM

I'd bet that your are fine. They don't have to be big to work, you know - and there's evidence in your 2 kids that they worked great when you needed them. Unless you're angling for an HRT script, forget about it.

**IronFreakX** · 03-24-2005, 11:30 AM

only bout 5% of wut u ejaculate is sperm
other are fluids from the prostate etc...
and are affected by hydration
last time u came how aroused u r etc...

**MrMondodondo** · 03-24-2005, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by 1victor

Symptoms of low test are depression, moodiness, sleeplessness, easily gaining body fat, lethargy, those are the main ones IMO

I thought these were the symptoms of Marriage????

**hung-solo** · 03-24-2005, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Juggernaut

You have a tiny penis. I didn't know how else to say it without sounding mean.

i dont lack in that area for sure just seems like low spermcount..**** it i am going to the doc.. this bothers me

**ReX357** · 03-24-2005, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by MrMondodondo

I thought these were the symptoms of Marriage????

**IronFreakX** · 03-24-2005, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by hung-solo

i dont lack in that area for sure just seems like low spermcount..**** it i am going to the doc.. this bothers me

who needs a doc when u got ar

**BigJames** · 03-24-2005, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by MrMondodondo

I thought these were the symptoms of Marriage????

LMAO. That was funny. I am sleepy sometimes, especially in the afternoon / evening...but I have almost no trouble getting out of bed at 6:05 every morning to train. It is funny, I read the list of symptoms and now I am thinking that it might be a problem. I can gain body fat like crazy if I am not careful, and as I said, I have never been lean. I think if I am not conscious of my diet and stopped traing, I would sit around 23% BF. That was one test result I had when I took time off due to injury....who knows if it is very accurate. I gotta not worry about it...worst case, it will come to light in the coming week and hopefully something can be done...I am not looking for an HRT script, I am in Canada so all is well as far as getting AAS is concerned. Will a doctor prescribe of administer HCG ? Or was that suggestion more for self-treatment?

**MrMondodondo** · 03-24-2005, 11:44 AM

I take a nap everyday. I'm old tho. Are you sleeping enough at night???

I have no nuts left!!! Belive me they are HIGHLY overrated.!!!

**Pale Horse** · 03-24-2005, 11:47 AM

nutz? we don't need no stinking nutz!

HCG may be prescribe by your doc but doubtful.

**BigJames** · 03-24-2005, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by 1victor

nutz? we don't need no stinking nutz!

HCG may be prescribe by your doc but doubtful.

That is what I thought. I heard from a friend that he did a cycle and could not get his test going afterwards (maybe because no one I know uses proper PCT...idiots), but he went to his doctor, explained everything I got a shot of HCG from the doc. I would think that attempts at restarting natty test would be made before prescribing supplemental test...it would not make sense to shut me down further...especially at 29 years old.

I am starting to worry about this now...I guess it will not cause me any harm..if my levels are low though, I may hold off on my cycle and see what more I can do with restored levels...if that can be restored.

So, if the doc says the test is low, should I try the self-admin HCG?

**Pale Horse** · 03-24-2005, 11:54 AM

yes, I would

**BigJames** · 03-24-2005, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by 1victor

yes, I would

How much again? And how often? Now, the HCG will increase nut size, but does it also increase or jumpstart test production?

**The Baron** · 03-24-2005, 02:16 PM

I think hcg will work best if your balls have actually shrank due to atrophy. If they are just naturally small, i.e. have always been that size, I doubt that hcg will make them much bigger. Just deal with it. Make the best of it. Maybe you can use your microballs to wangle a nice scrippy from your doc. Take up kickboxing... smaller targets. Go to Vegas and become a shemale showgirl... easier to "tuck" without the boys getting in the way. Send a clip to America's Funniest Home Videos. I don't know... what I'm trying to say is it is almost certainly not a big deal.

They don't have to be big to do the job. That much should be obvious to you. If your test were low, you wouldn't have the size that you are, and you would probably not want sex every night. (low test isn't necessarily a barrier to sex... often you can still perform when required, but simply don't care about it if it isn't available or there is no demand from the ol lady) By all means, get the blood test. You ought to have a baseline to compare to, from before your cycle, anyway.

My own nads are hyooge, but my test is running a little low, I think. I can tell by my occasional periods where I lack ambition or any desire for physical activity, and also at the increasing difficulty of holding muscle while losing fat. (I'm 46 so no surprise) If anything, they have grown slightly since my early 20s when my test must have been through the roof. Don't worry about yours being a bit small UNLESS they used to be bigger. No correlation, except relative to your own baseline.

**xfade7** · 03-24-2005, 02:19 PM

did the same doctor give you the physical? if so.. he probably just wanted to handle your genitalia some more.

**J.S.N.** · 03-24-2005, 02:27 PM

maybe your balls were just trying to hide from the strange man who was trying to slice and dice them.

**XxElitexX** · 03-24-2005, 02:30 PM

[QUOTEmaybe your balls were just trying to hide from the strange man who was trying to slice and dice them.[/QUOTE]

**decadbal** · 03-24-2005, 02:40 PM

you think u can drink aas from a drink, some slut gave you...hahaha.... you need to be tagged "dumbest nooby.."

hahaha

***Narkissos*** · 03-24-2005, 02:45 PM

John Stamos Nephew....funny dude with...AR's gayest avator...

**JDawg1536** · 03-24-2005, 02:46 PM

wow deca , i never thought i would see you on this thread....

**decadbal** · 03-24-2005, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

wow deca , i never thought i would see you on this thread....

dont be mad that your the girl who told him steroids came from gatorade or something...hahaha...sup mang

**JDawg1536** · 03-24-2005, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Decadbal

dont be mad that your the girl who told him steroids came from gatorade or something...hahaha...sup mang

how else am i supposed to sneak into the womens locker room?

**decadbal** · 03-24-2005, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by JDawg1536

how else am i supposed to sneak into the womens locker room?

its a hell of a good plan, im not knocking it.. whiteboy hi five

**BigJames** · 03-24-2005, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Decadbal

you think u can drink aas from a drink, some slut gave you...hahaha.... you need to be tagged "dumbest nooby.."

hahaha

Although I am glad you choose to add you 2 cents, it was a joke. I was making fun of the fact that the doctor was suggesting that someone could have "slipped" me some steroids without my knowledge...it was a reference to the whole "date rape drug in the drink" thing. Maybe you need to be tagged, you are the Gorilla.

**BigJames** · 03-24-2005, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Baron

I think hcg will work best if your balls have actually shrank due to atrophy. If they are just naturally small, i.e. have always been that size, I doubt that hcg will make them much bigger. Just deal with it. Make the best of it. Maybe you can use your microballs to wangle a nice scrippy from your doc. Take up kickboxing... smaller targets. Go to Vegas and become a shemale showgirl... easier to "tuck" without the boys getting in the way. Send a clip to America's Funniest Home Videos. I don't know... what I'm trying to say is it is almost certainly not a big deal.

They don't have to be big to do the job. That much should be obvious to you. If your test were low, you wouldn't have the size that you are, and you would probably not want sex every night. (low test isn't necessarily a barrier to sex... often you can still perform when required, but simply don't care about it if it isn't available or there is no demand from the ol lady) By all means, get the blood test. You ought to have a baseline to compare to, from before your cycle, anyway.

My own nads are hyooge, but my test is running a little low, I think. I can tell by my occasional periods where I lack ambition or any desire for physical activity, and also at the increasing difficulty of holding muscle while losing fat. (I'm 46 so no surprise) If anything, they have grown slightly since my early 20s when my test must have been through the roof. Don't worry about yours being a bit small UNLESS they used to be bigger. No correlation, except relative to your own baseline.

I have not noticed any change in size over the years, but at the same time, they are not tiny or anything...good lord, I would not have even been concerned about this if a doc had not mentioned it. Also, my own doc has never made any such comment, this came from the vasectomy specialist. Although the shemale showgirl idea is pretty good, I do not think I have the shoulders for it. LOL.