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***Narkissos*** · 03-22-2005, 10:36 AM

...That's what the guys wanted to ask me for when i tried a new gym last night.

Ok..a new 24-hour gym opens in my area. I decided to try it out...Bear in my that i've been outta the gym for a little while now..due to injury and other factors.

SO i walk in and pay for a week.

No one pays me much attention... so i go into a corner and get to work... By the end of the evening i trained Chest, Calves, Triceps..and tossed in deads at the end cus i felt like it.

The gym was full of big guys and their clique. Me at 5'5"-ish made very little impact physically when i walked in..but by the end of the nite..i owned each of them

Guys stopped working out to watch me toss around weight that had a layer of dust like it'd never been used. I mean... i was nowhere near my usual strength level but they didn't have to know.

Feels great to play with people's mind in the gym...

Where they ended (weight-wise) i strapped on a another hundred or so pounds and started my working set. For deads it was another 180+ pounds

onto their finishing weight.

Am i an arrogant show-off?

Does anyone go to new gyms just to own members too?

Some old bodybuilders at my Home gym (the place i compete for) were reminiscing a while ago about how bodybuilding use to be...They'd go every Saturday back in the day and challenge a strongman from another gym... outlift him and get bragging rights til the next weekend when they went up against someone else... Oh the Nostalgia.

***Narkissos*** · 03-22-2005, 10:39 AM

I'm gonna have a kick-ass time tonite...Tonite is LEGS... monster poundage

I think they'll have a Nark fan club by the end of the week.

**anaBROLIC** · 03-22-2005, 10:44 AM

lol all the tough guys are gonna say .. "i workout hard and dont pay attention to who is around me".

i hear ya bro. im like 5'6, not the biggest looking guy in the gym but i realized the other day i am def lb for lb stronger then anyone at my gym. have been called a freak and a monster many times as people watch.

***Narkissos*** · 03-22-2005, 10:58 AM

BUMP Mark...

My coach always made me train for power... strength gains translating into and equalling muscle gains..even when i'm gettign ready for a BB contest i'm in strength mode.

The guys were trying not to look but they had to... Everytime they thought i was done i'd slap on another 45 and jump in for another set. The deads were only cu si saw some guys training back...some big guys.. with some rehabilation sucky poundages... It was me showing really..deads being my pet movement... i politely asked to join.

The guys let me..from there it was history.

imma gonna pound some serious food in today so as to kick ÅSS tonite.

**Mealticket** · 03-22-2005, 12:20 PM

HOw did u get your EGO out of the door and back into your house?

**xfade7** · 03-22-2005, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

HOw did u get your EGO out of the door and back into your house?

haha good question

**9000rpm** · 03-22-2005, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

Am i an arrogant show-off?

Not at all bro. I am very proud of what I have achieved in the gym. I'm small like you also. I'm 5'5", but I toss around big weights for my size. When I'm doing 830lbs on the sled for 10 deep reps, about 1/4th of the guys in my gym stare from across the room. Mainly because just before I was a the squat rack doing 335X10, 375X10, and 405X8. And on chest day, I start at 225X12, then 245X10, then 275X6 to 8. And my body weight averages around 170 to 180lbs.

It feels good to notice people looking at you while doing big weights. So don't feel bad you arrogant a$$hole.

j/k

**Mealticket** · 03-26-2005, 05:21 AM

when you're only 5'5 its easy to go 405 for 8..............you gotta move...what?......a whole 10 inches till you're parrallel.
i'm 6'2 and can rep 405 for 3x8(natural)...and i'm not on here trying to swing my big dik around acting cool!!

**bigcut77** · 03-26-2005, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

when you're only 5'5 its easy to go 405 for 8..............you gotta move...what?......a whole 10 inches till you're parrallel.
i'm 6'2 and can rep 405 for 3x8(natural)...and i'm not on here trying to swing my big dik around acting cool!!

Sounds like you just did! (Swing your little dick and act cool)

**stocky121** · 03-26-2005, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by bigcut77

Sounds like you just did! (Swing your little dick and act cool)

owned

**9000rpm** · 03-26-2005, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

when you're only 5'5 its easy to go 405 for 8..............you gotta move...what?......a whole 10 inches till you're parrallel.
i'm 6'2 and can rep 405 for 3x8(natural)...and i'm not on here trying to swing my big dik around acting cool!!

You have got to be kidding me. It is the dumbest arguement to say that short people have it easier on things such as the squat rack and the bench just because they don't have as far down to go. That is just dumb. Do you realize that the human body is in porportion to it's size. Since you are 6'+, your body has the ability to have much more muscle mass than my 5'5" frame. So don't give me that "you don't have as far down to go" crap. That is such a dumb highschool arguement.

Don't feel bad that you are weak for your size.

**KGBnine** · 03-26-2005, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

when you're only 5'5 its easy to go 405 for 8..............you gotta move...what?......a whole 10 inches till you're parrallel.
i'm 6'2 and can rep 405 for 3x8(natural)...and i'm not on here trying to swing my big dik around acting cool!!

We're not worthy!!!!

**Kärnfysikern** · 03-26-2005, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by 9000rpm

You have got to be kidding me. It is the dumbest arguement to say that short people have it easier on things such as the squat rack and the bench just because they don't have as far down to go. That is just dumb. Do you realize that the human body is in porportion to it's size. Since you are 6'+, your body has the ability to have much more muscle mass than my 5'5" frame. So don't give me that "you don't have as far down to go" crap. That is such a dumb highschool arguement.

Don't feel bad that you are weak for your size.

If thinking pounds lifted compered to bodyweight then short guys do have a BIG advantage.

But in max poundages the bigger guys are better(if thinking pl competitions ect). Arm lenght ect is offcourse very important. Long arms makes a good deadlifter but a horribler bencher and so on.

Also remember just because you are strongt doesnt mean you are the hardest working or anything. Showing off strenght is pretty weak, all that matters is how much someone puts into there workouts. I have more respect for a 140ibs humble hardworking newbie bodybuilder then a 250+ cocky mofo that has so good genetics that he can gain much more with less intensity and dedication(not saying you are one since I know nothing about your genetics).

Funny thing is that I have always been around cocky sons of bitches that thought they where all that and in the end I have beaten them all in strenght

and Im not even that strong(500 dead, 410 for 6 reps in squat, 315bench at 200ibs bw).

**KGBnine** · 03-26-2005, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

when you're only 5'5 its easy to go 405 for 8..............you gotta move...what?......a whole 10 inches till you're parrallel.
i'm 6'2 and can rep 405 for 3x8(natural)...and i'm not on here trying to swing my big dik around acting cool!!

You're natural?!!?!!

Care to explain all of your threads regarding steroid questions?

http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?searchid=1578308

Homebrew prop

**Benches505** · 03-26-2005, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

when you're only 5'5 its easy to go 405 for 8..............you gotta move...what?......a whole 10 inches till you're parrallel.
i'm 6'2 and can rep 405 for 3x8(natural)...and i'm not on here trying to swing my big dik around acting cool!!

Any perceived advantage for someone with shorter arms on bench can be negated by the taller guy taking a wider grip. Look at the height on some of the raw record holders and it's obvious that one thing has nothing to do with the other

**Mealticket** · 03-26-2005, 04:12 PM

MAN....you caught me..............asking questions about cycles for friends MUST mean i use...lmao..not to mention that thread was from 10 months ago....I couldnt even count how many of my frineds have used my name to look up and request information on here. So because i help train several people that are "on" and educate myself about what their doing and what they ask me to do makes me not natty. Anyway. I got piss and blood tested last year 7 times, per UCI regulations following world cup qualifiers and events. I could care less if you believe me or not, WADA says i'm clean, and there's no fooling them

**xfade7** · 03-26-2005, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by aXe Leatherdaddy

You're natural?!!?!!

Care to explain all of your threads regarding steroid questions?

http://forums.steroid.com/search.php?searchid=1578308

Homebrew prop

haha nice work

**KGBnine** · 03-26-2005, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

MAN....you caught me..............asking questions about cycles for friends MUST mean i use...lmao..not to mention that thread was from 10 months ago....I couldnt even count how many of my frineds have used my name to look up and request information on here. So because i help train several people that are "on" and educate myself about what their doing and what they ask me to do makes me not natty. Anyway. I got piss and blood tested last year 7 times, per UCI regulations following world cup qualifiers and events. I could care less if you believe me or not, WADA says i'm clean, and there's no fooling them

Wouldn't have been a prob if you didn't come in here trying to start a pissing contest by trying to attack someone's weight they can push. And very likely story...at least you didn't use the "my little brother posted that"

You are right about one thing....I could care less if you're natural or not.

**9000rpm** · 03-26-2005, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Benches505

Any perceived advantage for someone with shorter arms on bench can be negated by the taller guy taking a wider grip. Look at the height on some of the raw record holders and it's obvious that one thing has nothing to do with the other

yep, that's why I say that height has nothing to do with an advantage. That arguement is just dumb to me and I completely disagree with it.

**Mealticket** · 03-26-2005, 04:25 PM

oh wait.... i lied. I forgot how ANABOLIC DNP WAs........(whhich isn't on the 2004, 2005 WADA Banned substance list.

http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=87087

**Mealticket** · 03-26-2005, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by aXe Leatherdaddy

Wouldn't have been a prob if you didn't come in here trying to start a pissing contest by trying to attack someone's weight they can push. And very likely story...at least you didn't use the "my little brother posted that"

You are right about one thing....I could care less if you're natural or not.

I wasn't attacking anyone. I was responding to what someone else said about going into a new gym and "owning" everyone. I dind't start the pissing contest. I just joined in.

Maybe i'm wrong about it being easier for shorter peple to squat.

In relation to my lower leg i know i have an abnormally long femur, which mkes it harder for ME to squat.

**Mealticket** · 03-26-2005, 04:39 PM

IF i wom wrong, im wrong. I'll be the first to admit it.
The reason i said that it's easier is becuase of this.

Several guys that i train and sprint w/ are shorter than i am. Some are only 5'8" or so.
These shorter guys do mostley longer sprint/endurance races, and they squat just as much as myslef and other "pure sprint specialists"
Now if you put us both on a power wingate test i'm cranking out over 2000 peak watts while they're cracking just over 1800.
Even though we squat relatively the same, when you even out the difference in height w/ pedal placement and position on the bike the taller guys are throwing down more top end and sustainable power!

**KGBnine** · 03-26-2005, 04:46 PM

Maybe they are just stronger than you?

**Mealticket** · 03-26-2005, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by aXe Leatherdaddy

Maybe they are just stronger than you?

In relation to what I weigh on the "squat rack" they ARE stronger, in the rack. Put in relation to the bike they are not.

When you race the only thing that matters is weight vs power. Watts/kilo

I have a higher power/weight ratio when we're both on the bike; which is when the field is level for both of us considering we're cutom fitted to our machines. I could care less if rider "A" squats more than i do becasue his power/weight ratio is still lower.

A person w/ a longer femur is going to sqaut less than the person w/ a shortet femur, if all aspects of weight and power are equal.
When you sqaut it's just like a hinge going down and then back up. Someone w/ a longer bones has to hinge down further(distance wise) to get to parrallel then does a shorter person w/ a shorter femur. That's just simple mechanics.

**O.fO.shO** · 03-26-2005, 06:30 PM

I'm by no means a monster . That being said...

I did 335x6 on bench last week and everyone was watching , people i dint even know were coming up to me saying nice press . (i about 205# 5'11") I think thers only about 6 i suspect to be on the juice though in the entire place . And ive never seen anyone do that weight.....so im obviously at a 'weak' gym . Makes me feel good though .

I gotta back mealticket up though , short guys do have easier presses .

***Narkissos*** · 03-27-2005, 11:21 AM

Back.. to my

short guy owns gym...big schlong pissing contest

***Narkissos*** · 03-27-2005, 11:28 AM

Back on topic.. it wasn't about showing off persay... i always train heavy...

By training my heaviest on my first day.. that will eliminate stupid questions later on.

At the gym i compete for.. i usually train mornings...so i decided to train one evening. I went to squat my usual truckload of plates and this dude's hovering behind me... making sur ei don't get hurt...cus i don't look like that strong...needless to say..the constant intrusion sours a good workout.

**Mesomorphyl** · 03-27-2005, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

I went to squat my usual truckload of plates and this dude's hovering behind me... making sur ei don't get hurt...cus i don't look like that strong...needless to say..the constant intrusion sours a good workout.

I asked a guy to spot me on a heavy lift and showed him how to get behind me if I paused... He spooned me all the way down and up... I was so pissed, I just said I would go lighter and asked him if he liked that ****.

**KGBnine** · 03-27-2005, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl

I asked a guy to spot me on a heavy lift and showed him how to get behind me if I paused... He spooned me all the way down and up... I was so pissed, I just said I would go lighter and asked him if he liked that ****.

Ha-ha...you got spooned by a dude.

**Mesomorphyl** · 03-27-2005, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by aXe Leatherdaddy

Ha-ha...you got spooned by a dude.

What is worse is when I yelled at the guy the whole gym knew, everyone had a bit of a chuckle... even me afterwards.

**trailrider38** · 03-27-2005, 02:32 PM

not to be a dick but i do notice that you short guys tend to like to boast about how much stronger you are than your not so vertically challanged bros. why not just accept that you will not be as big as a "big" guy and stop posting about how tough people perceive you.

Originally Posted by Narkissos

...That's what the guys wanted to ask me for when i tried a new gym last night.

Ok..a new 24-hour gym opens in my area. I decided to try it out...Bear in my that i've been outta the gym for a little while now..due to injury and other factors.

SO i walk in and pay for a week.

No one pays me much attention... so i go into a corner and get to work... By the end of the evening i trained Chest, Calves, Triceps..and tossed in deads at the end cus i felt like it.

The gym was full of big guys and their clique. Me at 5'5"-ish made very little impact physically when i walked in..but by the end of the nite..i owned each of them

Guys stopped working out to watch me toss around weight that had a layer of dust like it'd never been used. I mean... i was nowhere near my usual strength level but they didn't have to know.

Feels great to play with people's mind in the gym...

Where they ended (weight-wise) i strapped on a another hundred or so pounds and started my working set. For deads it was another 180+ pounds

onto their finishing weight.

Am i an arrogant show-off?

Does anyone go to new gyms just to own members too?

Some old bodybuilders at my Home gym (the place i compete for) were reminiscing a while ago about how bodybuilding use to be...They'd go every Saturday back in the day and challenge a strongman from another gym... outlift him and get bragging rights til the next weekend when they went up against someone else... Oh the Nostalgia.

**xfade7** · 03-27-2005, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by trailrider38

not to be a dick but i do notice that you short guys tend to like to boast about how much stronger you are than your not so vertically challanged bros. why not just accept that you will not be as big as a "big" guy and stop posting about how tough people perceive you.

a little insecure about being lanky huh?

**KGBnine** · 03-27-2005, 03:00 PM

It's all relative to size. It's the easy way out to say..."oh well it's easier for shorter guys to lift more".

**Mealticket** · 03-27-2005, 03:20 PM

but doenst simple mechanics prove that guys who are taller, have longer femurs have to travle further to parrallel and back upwright then shorter guys do?

You hinge @ the knee and connect @ the hip.
The outer plane of movement where you're hinged @ the hip has a greater distance to travel the longer your bone is.
Take a protracter from 90degrees and swivel it 90 degrees down. Do it again but increase the length between the point and the pencil. OBVIOUSLY it's a greater arc and thus a greater distance of travel

**Mealticket** · 03-27-2005, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

Back on topic.. it wasn't about showing off persay... i always train heavy...

By training my heaviest on my first day.. that will eliminate stupid questions later on.

At the gym i compete for.. i usually train mornings...so i decided to train one evening. I went to squat my usual truckload of plates and this dude's hovering behind me... making sur ei don't get hurt...cus i don't look like that strong...needless to say..the constant intrusion sours a good workout.

I'd rather fail and drop the weight off my back then have some guy i dont know spot me. My legs and knees are too valuable to me for anyone to up my risk of getting injured by spotting me incorrectly

**KGBnine** · 03-27-2005, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

but doenst simple mechanics prove that guys who are taller, have longer femurs have to travle further to parrallel and back upwright then shorter guys do?

You hinge @ the knee and connect @ the hip.
The outer plane of movement where you're hinged @ the hip has a greater distance to travel the longer your bone is.
Take a protracter from 90degrees and swivel it 90 degrees down. Do it again but increase the length between the point and the pencil. OBVIOUSLY it's a greater arc and thus a greater distance of travel

Yeah. I'm medium sized I guess you could say @ 5'10"...so I don't really have a comparison