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    What is BDTR's back routine?

    BDTR posted his back routine a few weeks ago. Does anyone have a link or know what it is?

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    he does dead's, bent over rows, cable rows, t-bar rows, and some other stuff i think.

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    oh yeah and he uses a lot of weight, that is why he is so big.

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    For size or strength?

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    He just does the cardio rowing machine thing with the women's aerobics class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmeat
    He just does the cardio rowing machine thing with the women's aerobics class.
    and pilates

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDTR
    For size or strength?
    Size

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    strength = size

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    kinda sorta

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    he lays on his back - then rolls over to his side a little - then fluffs his pillow a bit

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    Tell that to a 100 lb olympic lifter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    strength = size

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    lol

    bdtr..dont you use the cable cross alot for your development...rofl

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    u know that a 200lb olympic lifter can lift more weight than someone who weighs 100lb...

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    I also know that many 100lb olympic lifters can list A LOT more than 240 lb bodybuilders.

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    BDTR now your getting bodybuilders and powerlifters mixed up.
    And you actually know a 100lb guy who lifts weights? are you joking? hahah
    Last edited by Jenseno9; 03-30-2005 at 11:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    strength = size
    I disagree. Just because you are big definitly doesn't mean you are strong and vice versa. I know a few guys in my gym that weigh 40lbs less than me and put me to shame on deadlifts and other olympic power lifts. I don't practice heavy olympic lifting, so I'm not very strong at it.

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    I know a 150 lb guy who can put up more weight in the snatch/clean and jerk than most 250 lbs guys i know in the gym with a lot more muscle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    BDTR know your getting body builders and powerlifters mixed up.
    And you actually know a 100lb guy who lifts weights? are you joking? hahah

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    I wasnt talking about comparing to different people... I was talking about a single persons gains. If one gains in strength this will ultimately force his own body to grow in size. that is if he desires to do so by eating, training, sleeping... and not trying to stay under a weight class for power lifting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    I wasnt talking about comparing to different people... I was talking about a single persons gains. If one gains in strength this will ultimately force his own body to grow in size. that is if he desires to do so by eating, training, sleeping... and not trying to stay under a weight class for power lifting...
    wrong! it's a guideline, not a law.

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    come on guys... How many actual "laws" do you know... most everything we do is in theory anyway....stop picking this apart JESUS....

    and its not wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    and its not wrong!
    wrong!

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    I have larger quads at a lower bodyfat than some 1000lb squaters at similar heights, why am I not squatting 1000lbs? They are not trying to curve weight for competion either, these are superheavy weights.

    Same with bench pressing, i have a thicker/bigger muscular chest/shoulders/triceps than some guys who bench quite a bit more than me raw, why?

    Size = strength for many, depending on how they train, but doing sets of 2-3 is not going to put on more muscle mass than strength.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    come on guys... How many actual "laws" do you know... most everything we do is in theory anyway....stop picking this apart JESUS....

    and its not wrong!

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    so your saying that if you lifted for a yr and put on 10lbs on lean mass that you wouldnt be stronger....? you dont know what your doing then... stop wasting your time and pick up tennis...

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    When you gain muscle mass, your strength obviously increases, HOWEVER that does not entirely equate size with strength. That's just bullsh1t.

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    Well Ill just say this then
    For me when i get stronger i noticed that i also begin to gain lean mass...
    Are we all happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDTR
    When you gain muscle mass, your strength obviously increases, HOWEVER that does not entirely equate size with strength. That's just bullsh1t.
    Here is an argument that I can use to show that size does not always equal strength. I have recently returned to lifting after recovering from some injuries and a surgery. I was able to maintain most of my size during the time off, but my strength did suffer greatly. Now my strength in no way compares to what it should be based on my size. This is an exception, but it does prove that big muscle do not always equal big strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDTR
    When you gain muscle mass, your strength obviously increases, HOWEVER that does not entirely equate size with strength. That's just bullsh1t.
    We can just agree to dissagree

    I know that theres not formula or whatever your trying to say that equates size directly proportional to strength... It was just a general rule...

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    yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    Well Ill just say this then
    For me when i get stronger i noticed that i also begin to gain lean mass...
    Are we all happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    Well Ill just say this then
    For me when i get stronger i noticed that i also begin to gain lean mass...
    Are we all happy?
    Rarely ever am I happy.

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    1- 3x8 Low Waffles Row

    2- 20 Waffles Pullup

    3- 3 x 10 Wide Waffles Pulldown

    4 - 4 x 6 Bent Waffle Over Row

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Stamos' Nephew
    oh yeah and he uses a lot of weight, that is why he is so big.

    I didnt even see that you said this... why are you even arguing with me?

    I will say though that strength DOES EQUAL weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    I didnt even see that you said this... why are you even arguing with me?

    I will say though that strength DOES EQUAL weight
    i said that's y he's big, 'cause he b a bb.

    besides i was just joking he's so big because of the massive amounts of AAS he uses.

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    so it has nothing to do about his training schedule, how many calories he eats.....



    I guess Swole is just like that too cause he just uses AAS?

    u have a lot to learn grass hopper...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
    1- 3x8 Low Waffles Row

    2- 20 Waffles Pullup

    3- 3 x 10 Wide Waffles Pulldown

    4 - 4 x 6 Bent Waffle Over Row

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenseno9
    so it has nothing to do about his training schedule, how many calories he eats.....



    I guess Swole is just like that too cause he just uses AAS?

    u have a lot to learn grass hopper...
    yes, they work hard but you see lotsa peeps work really hard in the gym but they get poor gains 'cause they don't use massive amounts of AAS.

    massive amounts of AAS are sweet. jay cutler, ronnie coleman, gunther schlierkampf, chris cormier, what do they all have in common?

    massive amounts of AAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Stamos' Nephew
    yes, they work hard but you see lotsa peeps work really hard in the gym but they get poor gains 'cause they don't use massive amounts of AAS.

    massive amounts of AAS are sweet. jay cutler, ronnie coleman, gunther schlierkampf, chris cormier, what do they all have in common?

    massive amounts of AAS.
    I believe this opinion is going to get you a lot of negative feedback. AAS do help, but you have to give the guy a little more credit. He had to work hard to reach the point he is at to require the need of the amount of AAS he uses. BDTR and Swole Cat didn't get the way they are because one day they decided to shouut 2g's of Test a week. It was hard work, dedication, diet, training, and some help from AAS.

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    nothing i said in this thread was meant to be taken seriously. posts were for entertainment purposes only do not try at home. please disregard all previous posts.

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    stop whoring...

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    fine, i'll stop now.

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    I have trained for size and strength on and off over the past while. When I'm on a strength routine, if i eat a lot I get bigger, but gain more fat than I would if I was on a size routine, so less muscle basically. It's a little more than lifting beeg weights and simple thermodynamics.

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