Any felons on the board?

**J-Dogg** · 04-17-2005, 02:09 PM

I was just reading an ad for a job fair.

I always like how America is all about giving everyone equal rights, but in the ad on the job fair they put.

*”No felons”

I was convicted almost 7 years ago; I count thousands of dollars of someone else’s money every day at my current job. But because I made a mistake at 16 (convicted @17) I am unable to even attend a ****ing job fair? I have a degree in finance and accounting; I’m probably over qualified for 75% of the positions but am automatically disregarded because I have a single felony.

All you can do though is write your congressmen, I already did can’t wait to hear back from him! *sarcasm*

**spywizard** · 04-17-2005, 02:13 PM

ummmmmm...

you should get your records sealed..... especially as a minor..

**J-Dogg** · 04-17-2005, 02:20 PM

It takes 7 years, so I can very soon after paying a lawyer $5000, and then I can go to job fairs!

Lucky for me though, I don't need too. I probably make double a year of any of the starting salary at any of the jobs available. I found a niche in property investment about 2 years ago and have made a good living off that balance with my benefits job.

I just find it offensive that I have always been if not the top, one of the top performers in any job I’ve ever had and yet would be ineligible to attend a job fair.

**spywizard** · 04-17-2005, 02:24 PM

well.... i know alot of people that for one reason or the other think the same thing... and a good self image is one of the better qualities to have.

However..

is job applicant #1 is compared to applicant #2 with the only difference being #1 has a felony record.. guess who would get the job..

or another example..

#1 has a low credit score and #2 has a good one, they have simular qualifications.. #2 gets the job.. and this is true in many higher paying jobs..

but those arent' the jobs that will be at a job fair..

Good luck.. sorry you feel put out regarding the job fair that you don't need to go to..

**J-Dogg** · 04-17-2005, 02:29 PM

Those are not the problems I am talking about really though.

See they would not even compare my application or resume with any of those. Because I am a felon, they won’t even accept it period.

Even though I don’t want to go, and never planned on attending. I do take offense to it because I am not able to go because I’m a felon. I guess a simple analogy would be the same feeling a black man, or woman would get if they put in a stipulation of no blacks or women allowed.

***Cycleon*** · 04-17-2005, 03:02 PM

but get real - it may have been awhile ago and YOU FEEL that its not particularly revelant today - but lets face it, you did the crime and the time and thats still part of paying for it - its not like anyone did it to you - but as he said, if you can get it sealed, then by all means do it - but dont blame others for your mistake, even if it was awhile ago

**BOUNCER** · 04-17-2005, 03:40 PM

Forgive my ignorance, but whats a felon?.

**J-Dogg** · 04-17-2005, 03:59 PM

lol your kidding bouncer? It is a crime punishable by 1 year or more of incarsiration.

Your right Cycleon it is ME, but I feel I have a valid point.

Just like we cannot assume that all black males are criminals, we cannot assume all fat people are lazy I think it is also wrong to assume all 1 time felons are not able to meet job standards.

Take away my freedom I can do the time. But take away my career opportunities? It is a civil matter between myself and employers not between the U.S. Justice System, or the state and myself. Is it really up to employers to punish me for my wrong doings?

I can see how repeated offenders could be considered unable to do certain jobs that require a higher amount of trust, but I don’t think a person who makes 1 mistake should be deemed unworthy of working, or better yet applying anywhere.

Keep in mind that just about anyone on this board could be a felon real fast by simply being in possession of the wrong substance. Does that really affect you in your job?

**O.fO.shO** · 04-17-2005, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

lol your kidding bouncer? It is a crime punishable by 1 year or more of incarsiration.

Your right Cycleon it is ME, but I feel I have a valid point.

Just like we cannot assume that all black males are criminals, we cannot assume all fat people are lazy I think it is also wrong to assume all 1 time felons are not able to meet job standards.

Take away my freedom I can do the time. But take away my career opportunities? It is a civil matter between myself and employers not between the U.S. Justice System, or the state and myself. Is it really up to employers to punish me for my wrong doings?

I can see how repeated offenders could be considered unable to do certain jobs that require a higher amount of trust, but I don’t think a person who makes 1 mistake should be deemed unworthy of working, or better yet applying anywhere.

Keep in mind that just about anyone on this board could be a felon real fast by simply being in possession of the wrong substance. Does that really affect you in your job?

I see a little bit of what your saying . When most people think of felons....it sounds bad...like murderer , rapist ect . . I know a couple idiots friends when we were young did some stupid **** , not really all that bad , but not good . Somtimes your young and dumb .

BUT...then you come in and compare blacks to crime ...agianst convicted felons and crime . The color of your skin has nothing to do with your ability to comit a crime . The cold hard facts that your a convict do .

then cant assume blacks are criminals , that racist , like your post .

they can say you are , its in writing .

**BOUNCER** · 04-17-2005, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by J-Dogg

lol your kidding bouncer? It is a crime punishable by 1 year or more of incarsiration.

Nope, I'm in Ireland and although I've heard of it before I hadn't a clue what it was. I thought it was just any criminal.

**J-Dogg** · 04-17-2005, 04:22 PM

I'll quit posting after this, don't want to take on the entire board! lol

But just like you can't assume the color of your skin affects the ability to commit a crime. You also cannot assume someone’s mistakes can make them a inefficient worker. You should judge a potential employee on their ability, qualifications, past employment history and performance in interviews.

I was not trying to come off racist at all, was just trying to create some type of analogy to make my point better understood.