Thread: Why rebuild new orleans?
09-07-2005, 08:00 AM #1
Why rebuild new orleans?
I mean what is the ****ing point? Since the climate isnt getting better this disaster will get repeated over and over and rebuilding a city in such a incredibly stupid location is just not a resonable thing to waste billions on
Am I the only one that feels this way?
09-07-2005, 08:01 AM #2
09-07-2005, 08:06 AM #3Originally Posted by scriptfactory
09-07-2005, 08:08 AM #4
well the fact of the matter is that its peoples home. Im sure youd feel diffrently if you had lived there. I mean also its the 35th biggest city in the US and tourism is big there.
09-07-2005, 08:11 AM #5
09-07-2005, 08:12 AM #6
I think that it should be rebuilt; however the water defenses and drainage should be considerably up graded. Loads of history in this region.
09-07-2005, 08:13 AM #7Originally Posted by IronFreakX
Originally Posted by TheNatural3456
Its the same with LA and San fran. Everyone knows the big earthquake will come soon but everyone pretends it never will happen.
09-07-2005, 08:27 AM #8
if it does get rebuilt its going to take some serious time
09-07-2005, 08:29 AM #9
Even if it's rebuilt unless they do some serious engineering the city will be destroyed for sure by the year 2080 or something. It's sinking at a rate of 3ft/century.
09-07-2005, 08:51 AM #10
Darling, New Orleans is the Best Place to Live in the WORLD! You just can't appreciate it until you have spent a few years here. It is an amazing place and it still amazes me. We will rebuild. It isn't tore up that bad. It is home, and it is so much more to its citizens.
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09-07-2005, 02:28 PM #11
blame the french!
09-07-2005, 02:46 PM #12
there are so many reasons. here are a few
1. it is a very important port for the gulf coast as and more 10% of north americas oil is refined here
2. number jobs you eliminate if you just leave it you will put about 1 million people out of work
3. the history of the city
these are just a few reasons of the top of my head you cant truly appreciate New Orleans unless you have been there, and if you were lucky enough to experience mardi gras on bourbon street or in the quarter or have been to a sugar bowl there or for jazz fest. between New Orleans and Vegas there are no better party places on earth
09-07-2005, 02:54 PM #13
mardi gras in NO aren't all that special, I've been and it's really the same everywhere. But the jazz fests/music scene/food is fantastic. I could sit in a jazz bar all night in NO and be happy. But mardi gras is the same no matter where you are, at least that's been my experience.
09-07-2005, 03:08 PM #14Originally Posted by symatech
09-07-2005, 03:12 PM #15Originally Posted by allsaucedup
09-07-2005, 03:16 PM #16
Mardi gras in NO is sick trust me i have been the past 6 years......other reasons to rebuild so the people of new orleans dont come to florida
09-07-2005, 07:13 PM #17Originally Posted by IronFreakX
you should know what mardi gras is lol
09-07-2005, 08:28 PM #18Associate Member
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rebuild just so they can get the dang refugees out of Texas imo
or its bye bye Texas
09-07-2005, 10:22 PM #19
New Orleans is one of the oldest city in the country. It's managed to last this long, so Johan, why do you think it will only last 80 more years?
One disasterous hurricane in 400 years, and all of a sudden it's not worth living there anymore?
09-07-2005, 10:34 PM #20Originally Posted by SwoleDave
09-07-2005, 11:01 PM #21Originally Posted by symatech
and just fyi, the city is sinking do to the diverted water from the Mississippi River, not the pumps.
Do you really think that an entire city can continue to sink forever with a layer of hard bedrock under it?
09-08-2005, 12:03 AM #22
They probably said the same thing about Venice. Italy, not California. I think having canals instead of streets would be so romantic! I will fall in love with Mr Right on a gondola ride around St Louis Cathedral, and we will have a lovely home on the Grand Canal and live happily ever after.
Smelling and admiring fresh roses cut just this afternoon
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09-08-2005, 12:09 AM #23
there's more i just posted the first couple.
Ironically, all the pumps, canals, and levees that work so hard to keep New Orleans above water are actually causing the city to sink at a rate of three feet per century. Some scientists predict that by the year 2100, the "City That Care Forgot" will be under water. Does New Orleans have a deep-sea Mardi Gras in its future? Scuba gear or not, it's interesting to ponder.By the year 2100, the city of New Orleans may be extinct, submerged in water. A future akin to the fabled sunken city of Atlantis? Yes, according to Dr. Chip Groat, Director of the United States Geological Survey (USGS) in Washington, D.C., "With the projected rate of subsidence (the natural sinking of land), wetland loss, and sea level rise," he said, "New Orleans will likely be on the verge of extinction by this time next century."New Orleans is sinking three feet per century--eight times faster than the worldwide rate of only 0.4 feet per century. Currently, New Orleans, on average, is eight feet below sea level--11 feet in some places.The upshot is that New Orleans has been sinking as much as 3 ft. a century. That's bad news for a city that is already an average of 8 ft. below sea level. Making things worse: sea levels worldwide are rising as much as 3 ft. a century on account of global warming.
09-08-2005, 12:11 AM #24Originally Posted by Anna Bollick
09-08-2005, 12:33 AM #25Originally Posted by johan
I mean look at Venice (in the water), Los Angeles (on the fault line), Amsterdam (way under sea level), Hawaii (right on volcanos), Iceland (permanenty frozen AND on volcanos!)... all major accidents waiting to happen!
I think it's probably one of those needs of man to go and colonise the wildest weirdest places "just because it's there"... I mean face it... were it not for that need, who in their right mind would have colonised Canada??? (Where we got 4 seasons... Cold, Dämm Cold, God Dämm Fûcking Cold and July... )
09-08-2005, 01:05 AM #26
here is a brilliant idea. Lets relocate all of the New Orleans people to Texas and parts of southern california. Then we'll start a new Trail of Tears with all of the wetbacks in Texas and Cali and plop them down in New Orleans in it's current state. They are used to swimming around to get where they need to go, and if they dont want to live there then they can get their illegal asses back on to their own country. Louisianna should be an illegal immigrant wildlife refugee. We'll make 100 billion back in no time if we can get half these god damn foreigners out of here.
09-08-2005, 01:06 AM #27
God that sounded so redneck, I've lived down south for too long
09-08-2005, 07:25 AM #28Originally Posted by bignatt
09-08-2005, 07:33 AM #29
I dont think it should be rebuilt, it's so stupid, its like the people who build their houses on the flood plains and when their house washes away they ask why. I meen its ****ing 20 feet below sea level surrounded by water.
09-08-2005, 07:36 AM #30
One of the strongest reasons I agree on not rebuilding the entire city is that it affects MY wallet in the long run, the citizens of the united states are subsidizing these rescue and rebuild efforts whether we know it or not.
The port can be rebuilt with a minimum of money and be functional without rebuilding the entire filthy city.
09-08-2005, 07:37 AM #31Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
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I agree, the fact of the matter is, there are KNOWN risks involved in living in these places period.
09-08-2005, 10:00 AM #33Originally Posted by Anna Bollick
Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
LA that is just plain stupid. When the big one hits and LA and San fran is gone the world economy will go down the ****ing drain.
I could use the same argument for northern sweden as canada We have the same seasons but july gets ruined by the damn mosquitos
09-08-2005, 10:05 AM #34Originally Posted by johan
Bro, a while back you could barely make the months rent. what if you lived in a flood district, would you like people saying they just say F it and not rebuild it? That is not cool man. Most of those people can't afford to go anywhere, there is more poverty in New Orleans than most people in the states even realize. That was a dispointing view to hear ... especially from you who got to experience first hand the genorisity of mankind. To have that view is pretty rotten bro. I would think you would have more compassion for those struggling in poverty
09-08-2005, 10:36 AM #35Originally Posted by Heracles74
that would mean ALOT less suffering in the long run since this disaster is bound to repeate itself and the city cant survive more then 80 years longer.
09-08-2005, 10:45 AM #36Originally Posted by Heracles74
09-08-2005, 10:49 AM #37Originally Posted by majorpecs
I just don't agree with the view of stupid places cities are. They are where they are. Some have more choices than others, but to say that the government should cross their arms and not rebuild is irresponsible is all. We have a more obligation to help those in need.
09-08-2005, 11:11 AM #38Junior Member
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Im weighting the options and really haven't come to a decision about it.
But some of the questions i ask myself are:
Was Florida ever considered not to be rebuilt after massive hurricane damages.
Just because a large percentage of the poor would have to relocate doesn't mean they will have a better life elsewhere.
One Massive Storm come through and wipes out many homes and now the city is not worth rebuilding?
Would the question on rebuilding be different if economic conditions in the area were higher?
Can we place a value on these victims heritage, livelyhoods,culture etc.
What about all the jobs that just living on the coast provided, will we be able to give jobs (atleast to the ones that had them)if all citizens do decide to evacuate permenatly?
Like i said, its a hard decision that cant be weighted with just things of monetary value.
09-08-2005, 01:18 PM #39
They should probably bury the city and bring it back up to sea level
09-08-2005, 01:38 PM #40
Girlfriend, I will get nosebleeds and altitude sickness! I like my city nice and low, thank you very much!
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