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10-28-2005, 08:38 PM #1
Reasons i will probably never compete
i love bodybuilding and the hard work, that ultimately shows on my body in the form of muscle growth. I immensely enjoy these prospects.
However, the thought of competing to me does not have a very positive tone for several reasons. I used to think otherwise, but after reading about what you really must do to compete, my thoughts have completely changed.
1) These days, most people competing often take dieuretics, often abusing them to help them achieve a "Shrinkwrapped" look. I even read a column where Lee Priest said it can be dangerous- and deadly- yet they are forced to do it. He was agreeing with a column Arnold wrote, how this is one aspect of competitive bodybuilding that has stooped downhill.
2) to compete, you have to cut your bodyfat down to extremely low levels- abnormally low- and in the process you must deplete carbs; i've read this makes many people feel excessively tired, drowsy, etc. Additionally, i have heard many people who do contests actually lose strength afterwards- so therefore you take a few steps back in the process.
3) you have to shave your whole body! my girlfriend would not like that one single bit
4)Even if you win, you usually don't receive cash prizes unless you are in the pro level......just a trophee.
So you have to put your body through all of this additional hell, and even if you win you get no money? i don't really understand the desire.
I can think of many ways to make money off of a good physique- fitness modeling, personal training, hell even porn, although i'd probably never stoop to that low of a level
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Bodybuilding + Steroids = recreational for me however your number 3 should be left off. I can't stand hair!!!!
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10-28-2005, 08:41 PM #3Originally Posted by Smak
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10-28-2005, 08:42 PM #4AR's Midget Beater
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But you're right with everything else. It's a 2 way path. You either take it or you don't. I would have taken that path if I'd gotten into bodybuilding at a real early age and had taken it serious. Would have been pro now at the tender age of 26.
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10-28-2005, 08:45 PM #5
i started at a pretty young age too........but that really isn't the point for me anyway
i want to be huge, monstorously comic-book style huge,i have an immense desire for that, but, i don't want to have to almost kill myself preparing for a competition
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Originally Posted by ward065
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10-28-2005, 08:56 PM #7Originally Posted by ward065
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Originally Posted by GotMilk?Last edited by Smak; 10-28-2005 at 09:05 PM.
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10-28-2005, 09:07 PM #9Originally Posted by Smak
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10-28-2005, 09:10 PM #10AR's Midget Beater
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Originally Posted by GotMilk?
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10-28-2005, 09:11 PM #11Originally Posted by Smak
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Originally Posted by GotMilk?
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10-28-2005, 09:14 PM #13
The list of pro bodybuilders who have suffered serious health problems or died over the past decade is long and growing. But an exact count isn't possible because not all those with illnesses say their problems are related to drug abuse. All of the following men competed in the Arnold Classic, the pro invitational contest held annually in Columbus, Ohio, under the patronage of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. The governor himself underwent heart surgery at age 49, but has steadfastly denied that it was related to steroid use .
Mohammed "Momo" Benaziza died in his hotel room in the Netherlands in October 1992 after competing in the Holland Grand Prix contest. Doctors linked his death to abuse of diuretics that bodybuilders use to lose water, in the process allowing themselves to appear hard and ripped.
Paul Dillett, a Canadian competitor dubbed "Freakazoid" who weighed about 300 pounds, froze on stage while hitting a double bicep pose at the Arnold Classic in 1994. A few men had to move Dillett into a horizontal position and carry him offstage. The problem: dehydration linked to diuretics.
Andreas Munzer, an Austrian like his idol Schwarzenegger, died of multiple organ failure 12 days after competing in the 1996 Arnold Classic. For years, he had used heavy amounts of steroids and human growth hormones.
Kenny "Flex" Wheeler won the Arnold show four times. He admits to using steroids for 18 years and says he suffered serious health problems. Two years ago, he underwent a kidney transplant.
Don Long, who competed in Schwarzenegger's show in 1997 through '99, also underwent a kidney transplant. In an interview in March's Muscular Development magazine, he says doctors blamed steroids for his health problems.
Mike Matarazzo, who lives in Modesto, underwent a triple heart bypass operation last December at age 39. An online interview with the three-time Arnold competitor hints that steroids played a role in his sudden health problem.
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10-28-2005, 09:19 PM #14AR's Midget Beater
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Originally Posted by GotMilk?
These are all really bad examples.Last edited by Smak; 10-28-2005 at 09:23 PM.
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10-28-2005, 09:26 PM #15Originally Posted by Smak
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Originally Posted by 24labor
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10-28-2005, 09:31 PM #17
dude
if you listened to the hbo realsports special months ago, several people being interviewed discussed that they have known many, thousands of people who have used steroids , but NEVER HAD ANY HEALTH PROBLEMS
explain that then
I haven't even heard of pros getting problems - well with the exception of a few you can count on one hand as you mentioned above. Paul Demayo died of heroin overdoes, NOTHING to do with juice. Can you imagine how many grams of gear per week someone like Ronnie or Jay is on? MANY, MANY MANY more times than i would even think of takingLast edited by ward065; 10-28-2005 at 09:33 PM.
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10-28-2005, 09:32 PM #18AR's Midget Beater
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From those examples he gave both arnold and flex wheeler's are hereditary. Mike abused them and probably never came off and the other guy was using diuretics which we know is dangerous and is like playing russian roulette with your body. And Don Long SAYS he blames steroids , but there's no evidence.
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10-28-2005, 09:33 PM #19
no comment...
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10-28-2005, 09:34 PM #20
You can deny it all you want... these people were only mentioned because they are pros...think about all the rest that have health problems that we never hear about. Does this mean I will stop juicing? NO...because I am not that worried about my health because I am young...20 years old. There is a reason that they are a banned substance and its not just to stop the kids from using it...STEROID USE = ABUSE !!!
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10-28-2005, 09:35 PM #21
you look good bro, how much you bench? (just curious, judging by those pics id guess a lot)
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Originally Posted by GotMilk?
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Originally Posted by GotMilk?
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10-28-2005, 09:37 PM #24Originally Posted by GotMilk?
steroid abuse is steroid abuse, steroid use is steroid use. Steroid abuse not = steroid use
steroid abuse would be for instance, i stayed on 5 grams of test and 3 grams of tren with 300mg anadrol /day every week for 5 years. some pros i think do at least that much
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10-28-2005, 09:40 PM #25Originally Posted by ward065
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10-28-2005, 09:40 PM #26AR's Midget Beater
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You can abuse anything, not just steroids and use is not abuse.
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heh i'm going to sleep. payce.
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10-28-2005, 09:43 PM #28Originally Posted by ward065
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10-28-2005, 09:44 PM #29Originally Posted by GotMilk?
show me proof and then ill maybe listen
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10-28-2005, 09:45 PM #30Originally Posted by GotMilk?
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10-28-2005, 09:58 PM #31Originally Posted by ward065
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10-28-2005, 10:15 PM #32
im not stupid. you have been a member here for about 3 weeks, and you claim to be omniscent......
and you are wrong, my family and doctor DO know.......don't be so quick to make assumptions on other people
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10-28-2005, 10:42 PM #33
damn i hate you ppl that are so stubborn and claim to be experts after reading everything the media says.
its no used arguing with him..hes like my gf..stubborn and will never change what they think
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10-28-2005, 10:45 PM #34Originally Posted by ward065
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10-28-2005, 10:47 PM #35Originally Posted by chest6
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10-28-2005, 10:49 PM #36Originally Posted by GotMilk?
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10-28-2005, 10:51 PM #37
the media also says crystal meth is addictive after taking it once or a few times....i guess they are wrong about that too... same with telling kids to not smoke cigarettes...guess they are wrong about the too
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10-28-2005, 10:55 PM #38Originally Posted by chest6
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10-28-2005, 11:21 PM #39Originally Posted by chest6
but yes, steroids can cause death. there was an article in a muscle magazine i read once said that there have been people who have abused anadrol , and have had congestive heart failure. and died. key word: abused, they were talking like 1000mgs/ PER DAY. that's 7g of drol per week.
use vs abuse- not the same.
for instance, anyone could potentially abuse OTC drugs like tylenol, ibuprofin, and asprin . and death could happen too too from abuse/ massive overdose.Last edited by ward065; 10-28-2005 at 11:23 PM.
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10-28-2005, 11:36 PM #40Originally Posted by ward065
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