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    what why did it let you say ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    what why did it let you say ****
    CUZ Im GOD MUWHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    what why did it let you say ****
    Well spotted, maybe 'cause he's a badass.

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    possibly..maybe a psycho! Oh snap! I mean..a completely sane person

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFreakX
    • U.S. Citizen, proof of citizenship required (copy of passport).
    • Applicants must agree to an exclusive services contract with Blackwater following graduation provided that a minimum amount of work is provided by Blackwater.
    • Applicants must, at a minimum, have completed a four year tour of duty in the Armed Forces or its equivalent as determined by the admissions review board.
    • Only those who were honorably discharged need apply.
    • Applicants will be required to pass a physical fitness test prior to admission.
    • Applicants may not exceed a Body Mass Index of 24.9% calculated using the National Institute of Health (NIH) formula.
    • Applicants must meet eligibility requirements for a top secret security clearance.
    • Blackwater does not discriminate on the basis of sex, origin, religious affiliation, etc.
    So even if i wanted to join id still have to do some time....I still say the marines
    oh yea. forgot. go for it. write us after basic when you can!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFreakX
    I was thinking the same thing...but elaborate plz...
    go watch JARHEAD its a new movie about the USMC , will give u a good idea how they will deal with an arab decent guy no matter how satanic u maybe ........... its funny in that movie that guy also played a sniper marine role ......... u should definatley watch it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by zOaib
    go watch JARHEAD its a new movie about the USMC , will give u a good idea how they will deal with an arab decent guy no matter how satanic u maybe ........... its funny in that movie that guy also played a sniper marine role ......... u should definatley watch it !
    yeah I wanna see that movie....

    FYI..In the future....
    I dont care who it is im gonna Kill/Fight...wether its my family friends etc.......if the USMC thinks I have to kill them....Its done...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFreakX
    yeah I wanna see that movie....

    FYI..In the future....
    I dont care who it is im gonna Kill/Fight...wether its my family friends etc.......if the USMC thinks I have to kill them....Its done...

    good to know u have no moral guilt towards anything , u will actually be the IDEAL SOLDIER , a KILLING MACHINE ..................send us pics of u when u get in the marines !

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    Quote Originally Posted by zOaib
    good to know u have no moral guilt towards anything , u will actually be the IDEAL SOLDIER , a KILLING MACHINE ..................send us pics of u when u get in the marines !
    I already know...but thnx neway

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFreakX
    yeah [i]FYI..In the future....
    I dont care who it is im gonna Kill/Fight...wether its my family friends etc.......if the USMC thinks I have to kill them....Its done...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zOaib
    good to know u have no moral guilt towards anything , u will actually be the IDEAL SOLDIER , a KILLING MACHINE ..................send us pics of u in the nude when u get in the marines !
    By us he means just him for this one i think!

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    I think you you've been watching Black Hawk Down a little bit too much. IMO you're a bit to gun-ho about this, people die in war bro. I myself would like to sign up for the experience, (75 Ranger) however I don't have citizenship and I gotta wait. This is real it would be a bitch to get blown up by an IED and not fire a round in Iraq.

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    Iron FreakX:

    I haven't read through all the posts in this thread, just the one where you said you want to join the Army. If you are the type who wants to go to Iraq, then the Army or the Marines is the place for you. The Marines have got the scout sniper thing going on and the army has snipers as well. I was a scout in the army and it was an ok experience. I could write a book about it, but now that I am out, I am doing much better than I was before I went in. You'll probably have to wait until you get out to persue your educational goals, but the GI bill can be used for just about anything. I have been out for almost a year and I'm currently living in Kuwait, working as a private contractor out here, providing security for the army bases here. I get to man M249's all day, carry a sidearm, and an M16 and get paid doctor/lawyer money tax free for doing it. Not bad for a 24 year old guy with one year of community college. The military can be a very good thing if you're the type of person who plans ahead and know what you want to get out of the experience.

    As far as being concerned about your middle eastern heritage...I wouldn't worry about it. Don't ever take any $hit for anything from anyone in the army. Good luck man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFreakX
    Im a dual national (american/egyptian) born and lived in florida for the 1st 3 years...and the rest of my life in egypt... now im moving back...probably to florida..not sure yet...neway i got a couple of questions

    -will the other nationality be a problem? (i wanna get rid of it neway but dunno if i can before im 21)

    -can i get a degree in photography thru the army?

    -Can I choose to be a sniper if i pass the tests or wutever or do u get assigned automatically?

    -will i get to go to iraq? cuz if not **** that i aint joinin...

    thnx
    First of all - go see the Marine recruiter... you will have a much more full filling military experience (this opinion may be bias )...

    Your Egyptian nationality won't be a problem at first - although, like you said, you will need to give it up eventually for security clearance and other reasons. Many people enlist in the military (green card/immigration paper work must be finished and accepted) and get their citizenships that way.

    You can't get a "degree" in photography but the Marine Corps has outstanding Combat Photography courses. Alternatively, you can also work as a Journalist or in Video.

    Talk to a recruiter about the qualifications for Sniper. I do know that the Marines notice any devil dog who qualifies with the range high everytime at the range. You need to be a good grunt and a dead on shot with the M-16 at the range to really get noticed.

    Of course there is a strong possiblity you would go on a pump to Iraq within your first 4 years. How often and when would be job-dependent.

    My advice: If you speak Arabic fluently - go Intel. They need Arabic Linguist - especially what they call "heritage speakers." Those that have spoken Arabic all there life and understand the different dialects. The civilian contracts for Arabic linguist in the Gulf are paying a sh!t load... and if you want to go into the military side you will be rewarded with highly possible (and lucrative) sign on and reenlistment bonuses. Even if you don't enlist in the military as a linguist - you will still get paid extra every month once you demonstrate you know Arabic. If you speak Arabic - tell the recruiter!

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    Advice from someone in Iraq

    So... make any decisions yet?

    I've only skimmed through most of the posts, but I've going to do the best to address your issues.

    If you want hard core combat, personally, I'd choose the Marines. I mean, if you're going to be a hard charger, that's what the Marines are known for right? Frankly, I just think they take it more seriously. My opinion, not the facts, obviouisly. Besides, it just seems a lot cooler to say I am/was in the Marines" as opposed to "I am/was in the Army." For the record, I'm an Army guy.

    BUT.... It ain't like the movies. Ain't like it all. I haven't heard one person yet say, "Man, I'm so happy to be here." Not a one. Everyone can't wait to get home. It ain't a fun life, especially as a combat soldier. Read some personal accounts of soldiers/Marines. You need to be realistic about what you're getting in to. The military can change your life in a positive way, most definitely. There's no point in me getting into "how" as we can probably all know that. At least know what you are getting into though. I don't say this to discourage you.

    Being Arab and in the military? Haven't heard of any problems with that, though I'm sure it does happen.

    Uh... recruiters are there not to inform you, but get you to sign-up. If you are going to join, you need to find a recent military vet that can sit down with you and explain all this. Basically... if it ain't in writing on your contract... YOU AIN'T GETTING IT, no matter how many hamburgers the recruiter buys you.

    Sniper? Man, you'd be a recruiters wet dream!! "Yes, young man, you just go to Boot camp and when the Drill asks who wants to be a sniper, you just raise your hand and say 'Sir, I do Sir!' It's that easy" Yeah, right. Very hard to get into. Again, not meant to discourage, but just meant to give the facts.

    Blackwater. Very respeced, though arrogant. Not easy to get into though the pay, from what I hear is awesome. $1k+/day for some folks. If you look at their website, you'll see the caliber of people they are looking for. Lot's of ex SF guys. At least, that was the story when I first got here in mid 04. I've seen some young guys walking around and there ain't now way they're prior SF. One guy that I chatted with had some combat experience in Afghanistan. Certainly, I'd think they'd want combat exprience but what do I know. Worth a shot at least. If you want action, at least you'll get paid well for it. They do run an academy, but I haven't heard anything about it. Also, Blackwater isn't just here in Iraq but in many places around the world. You could end up as a gaurd. Who knows.

    If you speak Arabic you can land yourself a job as a translator with Titan Corp and work w/ the Marines or Army in a combat unit and make $150K+/year. Fairly easy to get that job as long as you are fluent in both English and Arabic. Egyptian arabic is different than Iraqi Arabic, but I'm sure you'd pick it up quickly.

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    For my perspective, YOu join the military and is more likely you will get deported in Iraq. Especially on what's happening right now.


    ONce you join it , there's nothing that you can do but to be their slave for the next 4 years or so.

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    going to the army is for those who have nothing to loose, i personaly would never want to join because i have a life. if its the joy of running around with a gun just buy whatever gun u like legally or illegally and go play with it in the bushes

    take the army test, shoot urself in the arm and see how it feels if u like that pain then war is your game

    i would rather take my chances becoming the bigest drug dealer than join the army. what do u gain by joining? hard training, no a/c or heating, oh a chance to go to college. take a f***** loan. america has troops all over the place dying all the time. its great, join the army of one,and then die.wooohooo.

    and jodi is gonna bang ur girl while ur gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsuperpump
    going to the army is for those who have nothing to loose, i personaly would never want to join because i have a life. if its the joy of running around with a gun just buy whatever gun u like legally or illegally and go play with it in the bushes

    take the army test, shoot urself in the arm and see how it feels if u like that pain then war is your game

    i would rather take my chances becoming the bigest drug dealer than join the army. what do u gain by joining? hard training, no a/c or heating, oh a chance to go to college. take a f***** loan. america has troops all over the place dying all the time. its great, join the army of one,and then die.wooohooo.

    and jodi is gonna bang ur girl while ur gone
    how about you move to Iraq then. Prick.

    You have proven your ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronFreakX
    Im a dual national (american/egyptian) born and lived in florida for the 1st 3 years...and the rest of my life in egypt... now im moving back...probably to florida..not sure yet...neway i got a couple of questions

    -will the other nationality be a problem? (i wanna get rid of it neway but dunno if i can before im 21)

    -can i get a degree in photography thru the army?

    -Can I choose to be a sniper if i pass the tests or wutever or do u get assigned automatically?

    -will i get to go to iraq? cuz if not **** that i aint joinin...

    thnx
    1.Your nationallity wont be a problem. There are people that are in the Army with all different backrounds.

    2.No, you cannot get a degree in the military... Well let me rephrase that. You can get a job in photography in the Army (Media Arts), but as far as a degree goes you have to go to school on your own time. My wife is in the Army and she goes in @ 9:00am and gets out like at 2:00pm (and thats concererd late). But the military will give you a "Montgomery G.I. Bill" that gives you money to go to school that you dont have to pay back. My wife has around 80k in her G.I. bill.

    3. You choose the job you want to go for, but before that you must take your "Asvab" test to see how high your score. The higher the score the more of a tech job you can get. As for a sniper, it isn't a job... It's something that you are specializing in, which means you go through training and see how well you do on test and so fourth. For example, my wife has her tab for "Marksmen", you have to get a certain score to earn it. And above everything else I think (Not sure) that you need 20/20 vision, unless you get lazer eye surgery... that the military also pays for.

    4.As for Iraq. It all depends on your duty station and your unit. Again, the wife is part of the 82nd Airborne Division @ Fort Bragg and they take turn deploying. But more then likely you will get deployed.... especially if your a sniper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poison Ivy
    For my perspective, YOu join the military and is more likely you will get deported in Iraq. Especially on what's happening right now.


    ONce you join it , there's nothing that you can do but to be their slave for the next 4 years or so.
    Your a freakin tard. Your no ones slave. It's like having a regular job, the wife is a "Ammo specialist" and all she does is sit in a office with A/C and her PS2 and handles travel stuff. Then she comes home like at 2:00 and thats that. But if you do go to Iraq then yes you do become a dog of the military, but everyone I have talked to that has gone over there has said that it was worth every second of there time.

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    i have to agree that when i was in the army...it was the easiest job i ever had. i just hated moving so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsuperpump
    going to the army is for those who have nothing to loose, i personaly would never want to join because i have a life. if its the joy of running around with a gun just buy whatever gun u like legally or illegally and go play with it in the bushes

    take the army test, shoot urself in the arm and see how it feels if u like that pain then war is your game

    i would rather take my chances becoming the bigest drug dealer than join the army. what do u gain by joining? hard training, no a/c or heating, oh a chance to go to college. take a f***** loan. america has troops all over the place dying all the time. its great, join the army of one,and then die.wooohooo.

    and jodi is gonna bang ur girl while ur gone
    I thought that at first. But you'll be surprised at the intelligence level that most of the people in the military have. For starters the army of "ONE" stands for "O-Officers..N-Non Commisioned officers..and E-Enlisted". Docters and people in Jag (Lawyers) dont just get those jobs handed to them, they have to get there Masters and PHD to get those jobs. Same goes for all Officers, you need to have at the very least a Bacholers Degree to be a Officer. In order for you to have a change of mind set you need to either join or have someone that you know very well to join. It will completely change your outlook for the military.

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    im not saying people in the army have low iq's just dont understand why u would risk ur life for that job..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsuperpump
    im not saying people in the army have low iq's just dont understand why u would risk ur life for that job..
    I know what you mean, but its not like movies or old veterans make it seem. I'm serious man, check it my wife and I are both 21. She is the only one in the Army and soon I will be in April. On a monthly pay she gets 4,200bucks, they break it all down on why you get paid that much and she is only a PFC which means she is only has 3 ranks. Now, my wife had scholorships to San Diego University, Cal-State L.A. and UCLA for a Medical Scholorship. But she doesnt want to become a docter anymore so she joined the Army to help out her resume and work for the FBI/CIA (not sure which one) in there Forensics Dept.
    Yes, some people join out of nesesety and some because they want to use the military as a stepping stone to help them get there carreer started. You dont sleep in a tent or eat MRE's through out the whole time your in the military. And your not poor as hell how some people say, if anything these buncha bitches have better cars at my age then the were I used to live (well kinda) and I lived in Socal.

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    Thanx alot for the HELPFULL posts everyone I really appreciate it.

    going to the army is for those who have nothing to loose, i personaly would never want to join because i have a life. if its the joy of running around with a gun just buy whatever gun u like legally or illegally and go play with it in the bushes

    take the army test, shoot urself in the arm and see how it feels if u like that pain then war is your game

    i would rather take my chances becoming the bigest drug dealer than join the army. what do u gain by joining? hard training, no a/c or heating, oh a chance to go to college. take a f***** loan. america has troops all over the place dying all the time. its great, join the army of one,and then die.wooohooo.

    and jodi is gonna bang ur girl while ur gone
    1- your an cupcake

    2-I doubt some1 like you would even know where to begin when it comes to de****g drugs as I have for a long time in this country and dealt with murderers, drug dealers and so on so spare me this tough guy crap...my grandma is tougher than u

    3-yeah I have nothing to lose, and since I do....I find this the best cause to serve in...and Im taking pride in doing so

    4-I dont do relationships...so its gonna be more like the other way around...more like me fvcking ur cute lil gf/wife with my bigger than average cock...hey gotta thank the arab blood for that

    have a nice day

    thnx again everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by d74mr
    If you speak Arabic you can land yourself a job as a translator with Titan Corp and work w/ the Marines or Army in a combat unit and make $150K+/year. Fairly easy to get that job as long as you are fluent in both English and Arabic. Egyptian arabic is different than Iraqi Arabic, but I'm sure you'd pick it up quickly.
    Yeah, Titan, MPRI, GLS and especially SMC are paying a lot for linguist. Especially if you will go to Iraq... and even more money to try and do some real hush-hush stuff... around 125-200k per year for civilian contracts. MUST be able to pass for a clearance... good credit and no criminal background.

    The more I think of it though - if you are young... you should just go for the Military experience as a linguist. The military training in the Marines will benefit you in personal and professional development...

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    Dude if you want to serve our country serve it. If you want be a sniper do it.You do have to be a citizen but as for nationality you won't have any problems. If you want to make money in the military and be somewhat happy then don't join the army join the Navy and get sea pay, hazard pay and a good lifestyle if you can't be a SEAL then go for SWCC they deliver SEAL teams with MK VIII cigar boats and run patrols on coastlines and kick some serious ass, you can kill all sorts of stuff. Plus they are a very tight knit community like brothers. At the end of the day you can know that before the Marines and even before the initial airstrikes you were already there weeks and months before preparing and plowing the road for everyone else. Just be warned the physical trials you will go through are nothing compared to the mind games you will have to play. Plus the SWCC teams don't have any officers it's all ran by enlisted men. You can be a petty officer standing officer of the deck in control of a 170' warship with Tomahawks and everything else. No other enlisted can say that.

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    Sniping is very technical and very hardcore. Getting in to the schools would be a significant achievement in itself. Once you enlist, if you don't get the school you want, or you don't successfully complete your course of training, you are still stuck in uniform. Could you deal with that possibility? Would that be like the end of the world for you, and time to break out the nasty attitude? If you can handle that, well, you sound motivated enough to do as well or better than average in the army.

    Getting into the SEALs is pretty tough. SWCC is nearly as hard, believe it or not. You might think about being an Army Ranger. They need lots of bodies and they see a lot of action, sometimes very challenging stuff. Training is tough but probably within your ability to handle. Mental toughness is just as important as physical toughness. You really have to have a never quit attitude to finish.

    Sure, you will get a lot of crap about being half Egyptian. You could also be singled out for a cool career track by being a native speaker of Arabic, too. The hazing is something just about everybody gets, for whatever reason. It is tacitly encouraged, especially in boot camp, as a way to weed out the hotheads and the misfits and psychos and crybabies. Just roll with it. Laugh at it. Resist the urge to pick back at the Texan, or the Italian, or the Hispanic, or the Jew, or the Black, etc, and just roll with it. Later on, when you are actually out in the field, you can level with guys and say "hey, can we leave this BS out of this? It really ticks me off, and it could mess up my concentration when you really need me covering your ass, okay?"

    The military is not for everyone. But if you can hack it, it is a good way to get your life started. You will learn stuff that will stick with you forever, about being a team player, being organized, being capable of independent operation, being objective-oriented, and making do on not very much money LOL! You could parlay your benefits and your military schools into a college degree. You could even stick it out and retire at a relatively early age, and start a whole new career while drawing your pension and enjoying lots of cool perks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna Bollick
    The military is not for everyone. But if you can hack it, it is a good way to get your life started. You will learn stuff that will stick with you forever, about being a team player, being organized, being capable of independent operation, being objective-oriented, and making do on not very much money LOL! You could parlay your benefits and your military schools into a college degree. You could even stick it out and retire at a relatively early age, and start a whole new career while drawing your pension and enjoying lots of cool perks.

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    That sums 'er up... personally I think every American should at least go through a boot camp to iron out the kiddie habits and juvenile tendencies while putting in some basic patriotism - then decide for either military or college education... or both.

    But well put Anna...

    You see, Anna is a closet sniper - tries to come off as this juiced shemale rescue hooker but is actually a Scooba K9 Certified Wartime Hero... its okay Anna, you can come out of the closet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior
    That sums 'er up... personally I think every American should at least go through a boot camp to iron out the kiddie habits and juvenile tendencies while putting in some basic patriotism - then decide for either military or college education... or both.
    That would be nice, but it could only work if the military was more inclusive and welcoming to gay and transgendered or transsexual people. I suppressed my gender identity fairly well through boot camp, but it was a traumatic thing. It is hard to deny to yourself what you are, and not be able to express who you are. As I went through other schools after boot camp, I began to let my femme side show a little. Out in the field, I pretty much just let it all hang out. Most guys just thought it made me more scary and more intense. A few understood who and what I really was, and didn't worry about it because I had a proven track record of getting things done under the worst possible conditions. (It always seemed like we were in the worst possible conditions!) Once I was doing something that was definitely going to result in harm to an enemy of our country, and the young man I was sort of unofficially mentoring saw me crying. He thought that was just so bad-ass, and was spreading it around during our informal self-debrief on the way back to the office. One of he old hands said, "Hey, that's how our bitch, ######, operates," as he gave me a quick hug. But I couldn't help it. ****ing people up who are just doing what they think is their duty is a sad thing, to me, even though I will do it without hesitation. Sometimes the waterworks were part of the job. I learned to embrace that part of myself, and look forward to it, as sort of a closure, a final page in a successful op. Proof to myself that I had given a job my full attention, intellectually and emotionally, and that I was still human. Maybe with more time in the field, (my job was 99.9% training, of course) I would have gotten "used to it", but I would rather not. A life is a life, and it is precious to someone, somewhere. A few tears are not out of place. The poor asshole's mother or wife or children would agree, I think.




    But well put Anna...

    You see, Anna is a closet sniper - tries to come off as this juiced shemale rescue hooker but is actually a Scooba K9 Certified Wartime Hero... its okay Anna, you can come out of the closet!
    Not me, Miss Thaing! I was the wardrobe coordinator and makeup artist for my military theatrical troupe. And I played all the female roles, since there were no real chicks out in the field back then. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

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    I think that anybody who wants to join the army should be mentally mature... and "I want some action!!!" is somehow not mature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myosin
    I think that anybody who wants to join the army should be mentally mature... and "I want some action!!!" is somehow not mature.
    You would be surprised at who shows up to boot camp - I thought my first day in the Marine Corps would be a bunch of high school heros but it was much different... it was mostly a bunch of guys that wanted to belong to something important and escape from their former circumstance/reputation... a chance to start something new for their life... for all kinds of different reasons. After Boot Camp, the shit-talking, ebonics, self doubts, coyness, long hair, weight problems - were all gone. Everyone looked the same - around 180 pounds, fast, loud and well-groomed and mannered. I think someone who needs some mental maturity should go special ops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by max2extreme
    What are you talking about N452.... Blackwater employees are highly trained, get things done, usually spec ops guys. Im not arguing they are hated in Iraq...but why you think that is?? cuz they are no nonsense and highly trained, highly experienced. Do you honestly know how many die that are in blackwater? ill wait for YOU to personally post that number. and then ill post your quote "a lot of them die too" along side that number.

    Blackwater is highly respected, iron freak. Its another option for you if you want to be in the middle of action. And the plus side is, lets say you go to their academy, after that you are required to do an assignement with them, usually 6 months (from what ive read) and after that, you can continue working for them, going on assignments, or you can quit if you dont like it. unlike the military where you cant really quit.

    i am not saying there not highly trained, although it does'ent mean because there in blackwater there spec ops... anyway i am saying there resources are not optimal , and there generally not accountable to anyone and yes there hated and yes alot of them do die (i know this first hand) do i know the number no.

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    Based on what I've seen, it seems that the super fired up gung-ho "I wanna kill everyone" guys are best suited and usually end up frontline infantry, whether it be Marines or Army Rangers or a regular line unit. The more quiet, reserved intelligent folks are the ones that end up in the specialized jobs, such as SF, sniper, SEAL, Delta, etc. The phrase "It's always the quiet ones" is generally true. Again, just based on what I've seen. All the SF guys I knew/know were always super calm and never hyped up. I remember one day over here in Baghdad when a car bomb went off at a checkpoint and blew out the windows in a building I was in, perhaps 200m from the blast. The building shook like an earthquake and glass went flying, not to mention how f**king loud it was. There was a SF Sergeant Major in the building a few feet away from me. Everyone, including myself, dove for cover. I happened to be looking at this guy right as it happened and he just stood there.... it was like nothing had happened at all. Hardly blinked in eye.

    I wouldn't say that one is better than the other it's just that different personalities are needed for different jobs. Someone who is bar brawlin' loud as hell, attention grabbin' isn't going to be someone who would be best suited to lying in the mud for hours, not moving, waiting for that one shot. On the other hand, that guy that's quiet and somewhat of a loner isn't the guy you want charging a bunker. Watch "Blackhawk Down" and notice the difference between the rangers and the delta guys.

    Blackwater guys do die. I don't know the numbers either, but I've personally driven past their burning SUVs on Route Irish (road between the International Zone and the Airport) on many occassions. I believe one got killed by an IED (improvised explosive device) a few weeks ago. I should also correct what I said earlier. Not having talked to any of them in quiet a while, I have no idea what kind of experience they have nor the training. From what I see... they do have some sweet equipment. You should see their rides...

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    Well if you don't have a family go for it. It is harder with a family but not impossible it's just hard to get used to going away and coming home to a divorce letter! I was lucky I was married before the NAVY...... Army, NAVY, Air force, and Marines they all got whatever you want. Are you willing to make the sacrifice to be that someone who excells and moves on up the food chain. Do it man I respect anyone who joins, probably not the Air force as much but for sure the others! My boss is a retired Air force guy he always gives me s--- about the Navy but he fuled planes and I stomped some ass and did some missile submarine sailing. The Air force has 50 years of good service the NAVY has 250 years of wartime history and Marines were riding our ships before the Army. You might say I'm bias but I can be! Good luck with whatever you choose and serve with honor and pride and you will earn all the respect you could ask for! HOO RAH

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