reaching your max genetic potential

**G-Force** · 12-09-2005, 07:02 AM

how many years do you think it takes to reach your max genetic potential
with and without gear and hormones?

how do you know when youve peaked
i sometimes wander if i have reached mine already after 3 cycles - but i know people can keep adding small amounts of muscle each year till well into their 30's

**BigBrother** · 12-09-2005, 07:41 AM

Up the doses and get on GH over 4 IU's. Takes me 2g/week for the juice to work. Not saying you need 2g but you'll need more as the years go by if you keep juicing.

**Born Threat** · 12-09-2005, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by BigBrother

Up the doses and get on GH over 4 IU's. Takes me 2g/week for the juice to work. Not saying you need 2g but you'll need more as the years go by if you keep juicing.

**BigBrother** · 12-09-2005, 07:57 AM

Did I confuse you?

Originally Posted by Born Threat

**Born Threat** · 12-09-2005, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by BigBrother

Did I confuse you?

No. Your reply had nothing to do with what he was asking.

**G-Force** · 12-09-2005, 08:19 AM

i think he was saying that its harder to get bigger once you get to a certain stage and you need more and more juice

but there must be a point where u just cant get any bigger no matter how much gear you use

i wander how many of the pro's have reached their genetic potential

a lot of them stay the same weight each year - eg lee priest

ronni and jay actually went down in weight this year

**BigBrother** · 12-09-2005, 08:22 AM

Yeah, you can only take so much before your body shuts down. We probably see with Ronnie the max potential with todays drugs.

**G-Force** · 12-09-2005, 09:11 AM

maybe in the future they will invent a new drug that will make us look like greg valentino except without the synthol

have u seen that guys avator where a bodybuilder has been photoshopped too look even bigger with a tinier waist

there are a few guys with similar avators but this one is done rreally well

i couldnt find it though

**needmorestrength** · 12-09-2005, 11:47 AM

umm genetic potential refers to what you can gain NATURALLY.. hence GENETIC potential.. Its whats in your genes.. When you use gear etc, it "alters" your potential.. Genetic potential is different for everyone, because you CANT gain any more size, and usually your strength sticks too, no matter what routine you use, no matter what diet you imploy, your stuck!

**Born Threat** · 12-09-2005, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by needmorestrength

umm genetic potential refers to what you can gain NATURALLY.. hence GENETIC potential.. Its whats in your genes.. When you use gear etc, it "alters" your potential.. Genetic potential is different for everyone, because you CANT gain any more size, and usually your strength sticks too, no matter what routine you use, no matter what diet you imploy, your stuck!

Exactly right. Apparently there is a misconception on genetic potential as gear is what lets you go beyond it.

**IronReload04** · 12-09-2005, 01:27 PM

the bigger you get, the more food your body can use. i think genetic potential is infinite in technical terms, bettter genetics means getting their faster and easier than the next guy. naturally, their is only one way to go and that is up providing boatloads of protein are there

imo

**IronReload04** · 12-09-2005, 01:28 PM

you know, what if ronnie could stay 28 years old forever and stay youthful forever. in 100 years, i wander what he would look like. interesting food for thoguht

**chest6** · 12-09-2005, 02:14 PM

Hm. No idea. Im guessing mine is like 250 12% or so at 6' 2". Tryin to get there naturally by 20 or so

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**MASTER** · 12-09-2005, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by IronReload04

you know, what if ronnie could stay 28 years old forever and stay youthful forever. in 100 years, i wander what he would look like. interesting food for thoguht

well hed have to find some way of getting 13 years younger first!

**IronReload04** · 12-09-2005, 02:52 PM

yup.

**Carlos_E** · 12-09-2005, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by IronReload04

you know, what if ronnie could stay 28 years old forever and stay youthful forever. in 100 years, i wander what he would look like. interesting food for thoguht

There are a lot of guys who see better gains in their mid 30s than 20s. I'm one of them.

**Nismo** · 12-09-2005, 04:09 PM

How bout the worlds strongest boy. They say that he is all natural and he used to be pretty big for his age. I dont think that guy has hit his potential. He is only 13-14 I think.

**IronReload04** · 12-09-2005, 04:10 PM

kick ass man. thats the kind of shit l like to hear. gives me somthing to look forward to.

BG · 12-09-2005, 04:22 PM

I peaked at 28, could have been sooner but I took time off during the summers. Got stuck at 180, wouldnt budge, the this year decided I was mature enough( temper under control) to take some AS.Being peaked I get good results from AS, but not much weight, 8-10lbs last cycle, but looks like more because of base.

**G-Force** · 12-10-2005, 06:52 AM

how do you find motivation to continue eating and working out once you meet your potential ?

**Kärnfysikern** · 12-10-2005, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

how many years do you think it takes to reach your max genetic potential
with and without gear and hormones?

how do you know when youve peaked
i sometimes wander if i have reached mine already after 3 cycles - but i know people can keep adding small amounts of muscle each year till well into their 30's

I dont think you ever reach a limit where you CANT gain anymore. But the gains might come very slow after a while. I dont fully belive in the genetic limit. There is always something that can be tweaked to cram out a few ibs more or to gain some more strenght.

Even if you somehow peak your muscle potential if such a thing exists there is still room to gain strenght by training the cns ect.

The real limit comes I guess when old age starts showing its uggly face. Im glad I have another 25-30 good years ahead of me

**Nismo** · 12-10-2005, 11:45 AM

Think of it a DragonBall Z.... When your fit all natural potenital you are a what we call "Sayains" but when you hit the roids thats when you breakthrough the potential and become "Super Sayains". Makes sense if you think about it.

**IronReload04** · 12-10-2005, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by johan

I dont think you ever reach a limit where you CANT gain anymore. But the gains might come very slow after a while. I dont fully belive in the genetic limit. There is always something that can be tweaked to cram out a few ibs more or to gain some more strenght.

Even if you somehow peak your muscle potential if such a thing exists there is still room to gain strenght by training the cns ect.

The real limit comes I guess when old age starts showing its uggly face. Im glad I have another 25-30 good years ahead of me

agree, thats what i was getting at earlier. the bigger you get, the more food you can probably process (protein). so to me, size is infinite technically.

**G-Force** · 12-12-2005, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by johan

I dont think you ever reach a limit where you CANT gain anymore. But the gains might come very slow after a while. I dont fully belive in the genetic limit. There is always something that can be tweaked to cram out a few ibs more or to gain some more strenght.

Even if you somehow peak your muscle potential if such a thing exists there is still room to gain strenght by training the cns ect.

The real limit comes I guess when old age starts showing its uggly face. Im glad I have another 25-30 good years ahead of me

nice one
thats a reassuring way of looking at it

i just hope it works that way for me in practice

**G-Force** · 12-12-2005, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by G-Force

maybe in the future they will invent a new drug that will make us look like greg valentino except without the synthol

have u seen that guys avator where a bodybuilder has been photoshopped too look even bigger with a tinier waist

there are a few guys with similar avators but this one is done rreally well

i couldnt find it though

here it is

do think we can be seeing people like this in the future?

**chest6** · 12-12-2005, 10:27 AM

ya thats NYC MIKE's avatar..maybe its BIG MIKE i dont remember but I dont think bb's will look like that anytime soon..maybe eventually

**G-Force** · 12-12-2005, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by chest6

ya thats NYC MIKE's avatar..maybe its BIG MIKE i dont remember but I dont think bb's will look like that anytime soon..maybe eventually

i hope they do

there is definitely room for improvements anyway

**chest6** · 12-12-2005, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

i hope they do

there is definitely room for improvements anyway

have traps the size of basketballs

**Mizfit** · 12-12-2005, 05:39 PM

theres no way of truly knowing because you don't have anything to really measure yourself against.

Even identical twins are affected by ouside infleunces such as external stresses, food intact etc...

**solid-d** · 12-12-2005, 06:45 PM

look at hulk hogan, he gotta be mid 50's.. Still likes pretty ripped, considering. My question about the food thing is, if your eating more as you get older to get muscle and at the same time your matabolizm is slowing down, wouldnt you just get fat?? The trick is to stay lean..