Why do all Americans claim to have a little bit of Irish in them.

**NotSmall** · 01-06-2006, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by decadbal

exactly, only the english would know this so well, seeing how they have terrorized ever type of person in the world. without english history, the world would have been a much better place, shame the germans didnt hate the english, instead of the jews

Laughable.
Check your own nationality before accusing others of terrorising the world.

**decadbal** · 01-06-2006, 01:30 PM

thats what ppl think americans do now, england would be a larger influence in the worlds military, if it had one wothy of fear, but your ppls days have come and past.. your free bc your sadly under the blanket of freedom the US provides.

**NotSmall** · 01-06-2006, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by decadbal

thats what ppl think americans do now,

Are they wrong?

Originally Posted by decadbal

england would be a larger influence in the worlds military, if it had one wothy of fear, but your ppls days have come and past...

Our nation's time has come and passed because you have a bigger army than us? - Where did that come from? - Did you receive an education?
Besides, England would have a larger army if your badly trained, ill disciplined, trigger happy bunch of half wits woudn't keep shooting us in "friendly fire" incidents.

Originally Posted by decadbal

your free bc your sadly under the blanket of freedom the US provides.

Delusions of grandeur...

**transform** · 01-06-2006, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

They are not freedom fighters, they are bankrobbing, money extorting, drug de****g terrorists who blow up innocent people.

And what about the Irish people who WANT to be British?

Terrorism is never the answer, whatever you dress it up as.

The IRA have never been involved in drug de****g. Theres also no single shred of evidence to support claims the IRA were involved in the Northern Bank Raid. Its also been proven the 'Stormont Spy Ring' which wrecked the power sharing assembly in Northern Ireland (and was blamed on Sinn Fein and the IRA) was in fact a complete screw up orchestrated by the British government and MI5.

I dont know any Irish person who wants to be British. The people you may be referring to are Unionists in Northern Ireland, but they dont consider themselves Irish (mainly because their ancestors came from Britain during the Ulster Plantations during the 17th century).

**transform** · 01-06-2006, 02:12 PM

I think a huge amount of people in the US do have Irish blood in them. I dont think theres a single family in Ireland who dont have familial ties to the USA. My aunty did a geneology search on our families ancestory and it turns out Iv more relatives in the US than I do Ireland!

**NotSmall** · 01-06-2006, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by transform

The IRA have never been involved in drug de****g. Theres also no single shred of evidence to support claims the IRA were involved in the Northern Bank Raid. Its also been proven the 'Stormont Spy Ring' which wrecked the power sharing assembly in Northern Ireland (and was blamed on Sinn Fein and the IRA) was in fact a complete screw up orchestrated by the British government and MI5.

I dont know any Irish person who wants to be British. The people you may be referring to are Unionists in Northern Ireland, but they dont consider themselves Irish (mainly because their ancestors came from Britain during the Ulster Plantations during the 17th century).

I notice you didn't address the blowing up of innocent people...

**Bigen12** · 01-06-2006, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by decadbal

thats what ppl think americans do now, england would be a larger influence in the worlds military, if it had one wothy of fear, but your ppls days have come and past.. your free bc your sadly under the blanket of freedom the US provides.

Come on Deca , you know the British have really helped the world....

Just think what a sad state of affairs the world’s Dental hygiene would be if it wasn't for their example.....

**NotSmall** · 01-06-2006, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Bigen12

Come on Deca , you know the British have really helped the world....

Just think what a sad state of affairs the world’s Dental hygiene would be if it wasn't for their example.....

ooooooooo you bitch!

**Bigen12** · 01-06-2006, 04:34 PM

Who....

Me??????

**NotSmall** · 01-06-2006, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Bigen12

Who....

Me??????

Is that you dude?

**63190** · 01-06-2006, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by MESSY_UK

Lol, over the years ive spoken and dealt with thousands of people in the US, and all i ever come across are people who's for some reason or another Irish or have some distant reletive who is.

Many times they have no association to Ireland at all.

So.. what is it with you guys? Whats so great about Ireland? In the UK we hate them.

I'm not Irish nor do I claim to be. I'm an American of Mexican decent.
I do, how ever have a maternal aunt who married one. She met the guy here in El Paso when he was stationed here. They got married and moved back to New York where he's from. My cousins are tall and dark. Plus, they can drink any one under the table.

**Tren Bull** · 01-06-2006, 08:34 PM

all things considered it really doesn't matter if the british or the americans have a larger army/navy/whatever. america and great britan will always have each others back. as far as im concerned there is no other place i would rather live

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-07-2006, 01:40 AM

i have freckles ... does that count ???

**J.S.N.** · 01-07-2006, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

i have freckles ... does that count ???

selfowned!

**QuieTSToRM33** · 01-07-2006, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by J.S.N.

selfowned!

sure thing hoss

**PrairieDawg** · 01-07-2006, 05:36 AM

I'm not Irish or anything from the UK. I have alot of Euro in me but mostly German and Russian. I'm acually a decendant of a Russian czar.

If I can just chime in my 2 cents here... I don't want to start anything but the americains shouldn't really be trashing the english for what they did in the past considering the entire world views the Bush admin as doing the same thing right now. I'm sure that since you live in the US you don't see it that way, as well I wouldn't expect you to, but the rest of the world really does think so. I mostly viewed the US as peace keepers until Bush became president and started threatening any country that objected him.

**BOUNCER** · 01-07-2006, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

I notice you didn't address the blowing up of innocent people...

Oh yea, he forgot Bloody Sunday and the Dublin and Monaghan bombings!. He forgot Gibralter too. We won't mention the fireboming of Dresdan and Colgne by 'bomber' Harris. God forbids he brings up the General Belgrano!. Lets just brush Rhodesia and Malaysia under the carpet too!.

Gotta love it when a Brit whose country has plundered nations and devided many lands, and whose soldiers look down the barrel of an SA80 in someone else's land calls us terrorists!.

As for the IRA murdering innocent people. Yes they have done, absolutely without question they did. As an Irish person I was embarressed and ashamed of those actions. I think they should have confined their war to British military and economic targets like the Canary wharf (unfortunetly two innocents were killed in this action) and Manchester bombings. Or military targets like Warrenpoint etc.

**BOUNCER** · 01-07-2006, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by PrairieDawg

I'm not Irish or anything from the UK. I have alot of Euro in me but mostly German and Russian. I'm acually a decendant of a Russian czar.

If I can just chime in my 2 cents here... I don't want to start anything but the americains shouldn't really be trashing the english for what they did in the past considering the entire world views the Bush admin as doing the same thing right now. I'm sure that since you live in the US you don't see it that way, as well I wouldn't expect you to, but the rest of the world really does think so. I mostly viewed the US as peace keepers until Bush became president and started threatening any country that objected him.

Actually thats not strictly speaking through. Britain never allowed home rule in any country it occupied. Bush is at least trying to bring a semblence of freedom and democracy to the countries he invades. There is a difference.

**NotSmall** · 01-07-2006, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by BOUNCER

As for the IRA murdering innocent people. Yes they have done, absolutely without question they did.

That is all I was saying.
I never suggested that England was without blame - which country is?
Neither did I attack Irish people, I went to Dublin last summer and the people there were among the friendliest, most good humoured I have ever met - clearly not all Irish people are this way though...

**NotSmall** · 01-07-2006, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by BOUNCER

Gotta love it when a Brit whose country has plundered nations and devided many lands, and whose soldiers look down the barrel of an SA80 in someone else's land calls us terrorists!.

I don't recall calling YOU a terrorist, unless you are a member of the IRA...

**BOUNCER** · 01-07-2006, 06:21 AM

Right then lets knock this shit on the head.

**NotSmall** · 01-07-2006, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by BOUNCER

Right then lets knock this shit on the head.

Only if you gimme a kiss!

RA · 01-07-2006, 09:43 AM

There are a lot of Irish ppl in the U.S. Maybe some claim falsly but Im thinking most are sincere. We also have a very large German population..go figure I came out German/Irish..

RA · 01-07-2006, 09:45 AM

My mothers maiden name was Dunn..def Irish. My wifes was O'Farrell..Our kids came out with six packs.

**isolatex** · 01-07-2006, 11:27 AM

how can someone who is second or 3rd generation born in a forign country be irish?

thats impossible if you are second or thrid generation in america you are not irish american but you are caucsion american.

the problem here is that alot of people in america are ashamed of being white so they make up stories and long shot links to forign countries so they dont have to call themselves caucasion :

eg.

guy1 : hey what race are you.
guy2 : im irish american
guy1 : oh so youre from ireland
guy2 : no
guy1 : ok so you have an irish passport
guy2 : no
guy1 : so you live in ireland on a visa
guy2 : no
guy1 : so you ever been on a holiday to ireland
guy2 : no
guy1 : so you have no passport, never been there, dont speak the language, and no genetic DNA which sperates you from white people from other parts of the world and you are irish
guy2 : yes

**Elysium** · 01-07-2006, 01:23 PM

Haha you may notice i made a sharp exit from this thread.

Its the internet guys, smile.

**NotSmall** · 01-07-2006, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by MESSY_UK

Haha you may notice i made a sharp exit from this thread.

Its the internet guys, smile.

It's all good! - Don't be so sensitive!

There's nothing wrong with a lively debate!

**decadbal** · 01-07-2006, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by isolatex

how can someone who is second or 3rd generation born in a forign country be irish?

thats impossible if you are second or thrid generation in america you are not irish american but you are caucsion american.

the problem here is that alot of people in america are ashamed of being white so they make up stories and long shot links to forign countries so they dont have to call themselves caucasion :

eg.

guy1 : hey what race are you.
guy2 : im irish american
guy1 : oh so youre from ireland
guy2 : no
guy1 : ok so you have an irish passport
guy2 : no
guy1 : so you live in ireland on a visa
guy2 : no
guy1 : so you ever been on a holiday to ireland
guy2 : no
guy1 : so you have no passport, never been there, dont speak the language, and no genetic DNA which sperates you from white people from other parts of the world and you are irish
guy2 : yes

so its acceptable that blacks are african american, but no one can be Irish american...hmmmmmm

**scriptfactory** · 01-07-2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by decadbal

so its acceptable that blacks are african american, but no one can be Irish american...hmmmmmm

I know, right? And it's impossible for the majority of black Americans to even trace their lineage back to Africa! Most people who claim to be Irish American can actually trace their ancestry back to an Irish ancestor.