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    Criminal background check

    So are there anyways to skirt around a background check? I have a couple of low-level felonies that are preventing me from obtaining meaningful employment and putting my bachelors degree to good use. From my understanding a background check only goes off information such as your full name, DOB, and Social Security number.

    Changing your name is real easy, changing your birth date is next to impossible, and getting a new social security number is difficult, but not out of the ordinary. If I were to get a new SSN due to someone stealing my identity, and change my name, would anything come up if a company ran my background check with the new information?

    I have to wait four years to expunge those felonies off my record unfortunately. Any thoughts fellas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramacher View Post
    So are there anyways to skirt around a background check? I have a couple of low-level felonies that are preventing me from obtaining meaningful employment and putting my bachelors degree to good use. From my understanding a background check only goes off information such as your full name, DOB, and Social Security number.

    Changing your name is real easy, changing your birth date is next to impossible, and getting a new social security number is difficult, but not out of the ordinary. If I were to get a new SSN due to someone stealing my identity, and change my name, would anything come up if a company ran my background check with the new information?

    I have to wait four years to expunge those felonies off my record unfortunately. Any thoughts fellas?
    Sounds like you are setting yourself up to fail. You want to change your personal info so you an lie on a job application? Not a good idea.

    If these felonies were so "low level", why weren't they misdemeanors?

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    Only thing that would change this, is switching your full identity


    But, that will bring a whole dif set of issues. . . Possible, just not very simple. Especially at this current time

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    You are better off having an air tight explanation as to whatever happened to your potential/future employer.
    whatever it is unfortunetly you put yourself in that position and you need to own it. You may be surprised how understanding some people are if they can sense you are remorseful and sincere....
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    Well in some states after so many years if you kept your nose clean and the charges were non violent you can get a lawyer and get them expunged.This isn't cheap I am told but it's your only way out unless someone gives you a break.Call a lawyer and ask about it.

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    The FCRA (Fair Credit Reporting Act) governs background checks and their standard check is for 7 years. Most background companies won't report occurences beyond that time frame so if it's close to that you may be fine in the near future. The reporting structure is based on the disposition of an event though, not the occurence date. So, if you commited the offense but it was not adjudicated until 18 months later the 7 year time frame initiates at that time, unfortunately.

    Employers also have to evaluate exactly what the job requirements are, your qualifications, nature of the crime as well as how long it's been since it occurred. In other words, if you committed a theft recently you would not qualify to be a bank teller. But if it was a disorderly person's offense and no pattern of repeat offenses then the employer should consider you. Make sense?

    Changing your name or other identifiers etc will not be successful with any background agency that has even the slightest clue about what they are looking at. Unless it's a witness protection program. Expungment normally cannot occur with convictions unless certain criteria is met in certain states. Non-convictions can normally be expunged anywhere.
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    Short story, I filled out my own DMV suspension forms to forego me having to pay the state back in traffic fines that were suspending my license. They were felonies because it was a government form. However, I can get them reduced to misdemeanors in eight months.

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    I am eligible for expungement but I have around four more years to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramacher View Post
    Short story, I filled out my own DMV suspension forms to forego me having to pay the state back in traffic fines that were suspending my license. They were felonies because it was a government form. However, I can get them reduced to misdemeanors in eight months.
    I think if you are upfront and honest with potential employers they will overlook this. Who has not "forgot" to pay a traffic ticket at some point in their lives?

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    FYI, I don't plan on lying to potential employers at all. I will give my own explanation on the self-disclosure part of the background check, but it would be in my best interest, if I could be truthful of the situation I got myself in, and when the company did the background check, nothing came up. I understand that is wishful thinking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTahl View Post
    I think if you are upfront and honest with potential employers they will overlook this. Who has not "forgot" to pay a traffic ticket at some point in their lives?

    Well I accumulated $7,000 in traffic fines within a summer, and my license got suspended for not paying them (entirely my fault). And instead of paying for it, I decided to take a short-cut and try to beat the system. Worse decision I have ever made. I have some impulse/entitlement issues yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramacher View Post
    Well I accumulated $7,000 in traffic fines within a summer, and my license got suspended for not paying them (entirely my fault). And instead of paying for it, I decided to take a short-cut and try to beat the system. Worse decision I have ever made. I have some impulse/entitlement issues yes.
    That would be great to use in an interview. I just want to know WTF did you do to get 7K in fines?

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    I bought a BMW 7-series and I had to finish the last three classes in Eugene (U of O campus) and I commuted back and forth between my home and school which is 2.5 hours both ways. I must have gotten a speeding ticket (or two) once a week, and I just didn't want to pay the courts back at all. Eventually it got suspended, then the fines doubled, tripled, etc. and finally got Driving While Suspended which costs twice as much as a speeding ticket. I dug myself a huge hole and I kept making it bigger and bigger.

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    This is still an open case?

    Only type of felonies or misdemeanor that employees really care about are theft types, in my experience

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    Nope its a closed case back from 2014. But Nike evidently cared enough to say no. :-(

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    Prob is, some employers are yes/no and that's it

    Specially govt. type positions

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramacher View Post
    Nope its a closed case back from 2014. But Nike evidently cared enough to say no. :-(
    the problem here is just like theft or burglary forgery is a crime of dishonesty, and big companies like Nike don't want someone that's dishonest possibly selling Trade Secrets or stealing things or what have you

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    My skirmishes with the law have resulted in a record that doesn't reach above misdemeanor, no harm to old people/children, no domestic, no drugs and nothing fraudulent. However, in my home state, where most of this occurred, an expungenment is out of the question (I ain't denying my nature by apologizing for something I don't feel I am a lesser person for having done and FUCK POLITICIANS).
    If I was your age, I would consider joining the French Foreign Legion. I's not a myth, they will assign you a new identity. You will do things that will give your life richness. After your contract is over, (if you have people or reason to come back to usa) you can emigrate here.
    1st) learn French and get in shape
    To emigrate:
    If you are already married:
    1 fake your disappearance.
    2 disrupt your finger print patterns with small burns.
    3 change, in slight ways, your facial features.
    4 meet your wife overseas and emigrate to usa
    5 you cant go to home town
    ----
    Will it be worth it? You are young, perhaps scared to start something new, perhaps frustrated for trying to make it in america and getting fked. IS WINNING WORTH IT?
    All my best!
    Or, work on a construction site and try to impress be showing life skills that people without the pressure that you have will not be inclined to have. After many years, perhaps unjust loss of opportunity, you may be happy.
    If I was your age... I'd give so much to be in your shoes right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    My skirmishes with the law have resulted in a record that doesn't reach above misdemeanor, no harm to old people/children, no domestic, no drugs and nothing fraudulent. However, in my home state, where most of this occurred, an expungenment is out of the question (I ain't denying my nature by apologizing for something I don't feel I am a lesser person for having done and FUCK POLITICIANS).
    If I was your age, I would consider joining the French Foreign Legion. I's not a myth, they will assign you a new identity. You will do things that will give your life richness. After your contract is over, (if you have people or reason to come back to usa) you can emigrate here.
    1st) learn French and get in shape
    To emigrate:
    If you are already married:
    1 fake your disappearance.
    2 disrupt your finger print patterns with small burns.
    3 change, in slight ways, your facial features.
    4 meet your wife overseas and emigrate to usa
    5 you cant go to home town
    ----
    Will it be worth it? You are young, perhaps scared to start something new, perhaps frustrated for trying to make it in america and getting fked. IS WINNING WORTH IT?
    All my best!
    Or, work on a construction site and try to impress be showing life skills that people without the pressure that you have will not be inclined to have. After many years, perhaps unjust loss of opportunity, you may be happy.
    If I was your age... I'd give so much to be in your shoes right now!
    Someone started a rumor years ago that once you are in you can't get out but I believe they have terms now. I was really crazy when younger, if I could do it again I would have traveled the world conquering and moving on. I still always get that urge to throw my things in a bag and hit the high seas.

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