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    Why do they feel they have to protest it???
    Its not like they dont have their own.
    If they protest it, it just means whites dont get it. Does that make them happy knowing NO ONE now gets to get a grant for school??
    Does that make everyone happy kicking over everyone elses sandcastle?
    Live and let live. You have yours, let us have ours. Its for SCHOOL PEOPLE. Its not a loan for crack. So you guys give it a rest.

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    It's good to see that a group finally has the nerve to stand up to these politically correct hounds. The only way to take a stand against race-based scholarships and affirmative action is to ditch this "white guilt" attitude. Too many whites don't want to say anything against these programs because they don't want to be branded a racists or have Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton harping and getting more publicity. Give this group credit for having balls to challenge the system. Of course, the college's administration isn't saying anything? But what do you expect from a bunch of bedwetting liberals.

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    dude i dont know about back then but boston latin is a really hard school to get into.

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    you know this is going to cause a **** load of negative feedback form minority groups but i really command them on having enought balls to do so..

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    Where can I find an application? It may be the only scholarship I win.

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    This has been one of my greatest unnerving issues. I've always been about "the best man for the job". If you deserve it you get it, period.

    And while we're on this subject, have you guys seen those anti-bigot commercials on the tv and radio. Usually has a couple guys, one says some racist remark and the other counters him. THEY ARE ALWAY WHITE GUYS! I don't know any white guys that talk crap on blacks or "colored" people. AND thier funded by some "underground railroad" something foundation. Who've guessed, huh?

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    sweet ass...If any of you read the gay thread, you should know my stance on the matter and I couldn't be any happier, surprised no one mentioned me since I duked it out with carlos....Oh white only, I think i'll reread that link in the morning just to get off to a nice start

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    i do agree with you guys that it is not fait how they have scholarships for minorities, but then again the minorities are the ones who need them the most, and there is a WET channel it's called MTV. I personally am white and i love my Black Entertainment Television. BET has the hottest and newest rap videos out there.
    MTV=Minority Television

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    bro boston latin is a hard school to get into now a days i dont know how it was back when you went there.

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    whoops sorry didn't mean to post it 3 times.

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    i couldnt be happier that someone finally had the gumption to start something like this- no one has ever publically protested the "national neigro college fund" yet there doesnt seem to be a national honkey colloge fund- so where does a the advantage for a quality education lye? - i am a poor white kid, so i do not qualify for race based grants and eduational loans, how f'n fair is that!!!
    affirmative action isnt anything more than reverse discrimination- which isnt any better than rasism itself.. society as a whole will never run out of stupid ideologies and personal biasis that will either satify the majority or give special circumstance to the minority to seem apathetic for "political" purposes...
    its all a bunch hopla- and i will continue to live below the poverty line while going to school- so an ethnic minority can have a free education at my expence.

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    They're many people in this country who genuinely need an opportunity regardless of their race and if any qualify for these opportunities, what's the big F*&@in deal!

    Furthermore, rap has not been "rap" since the 80's -toss a couple in from the early 90's but that's about it. MTV & BET are both softcore porn networks who thrive over blacks mainly and whoever else that wanna act like niggers - that's right cause anyone can act niggerish! If blacks and hispanics wanna pop ****, pop **** about how their women are portrayed as whores and the brothers pimpin them out on national tv. This also goes for all this so called "pop" music as well. If you're down with it, then fine do your thing but don't talk **** about a white only opportunity when you help support your own explotation.

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    I'm talking area, not the actual school.

    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    dude i dont know about back then but boston latin is a really hard school to get into.

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    Don't they have a scholarship for left handed students? I should sign up for that

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    I bet they do xavier..... probably have one for red heads... one for blondes... one for people over 6'5 etc. etc. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermich
    There is no WET channel.

    I think that would be ABC, CBS, and NBC. Lots more whites there than blacks.
    And no, I don't have any objection to a privately funded "whites only" scholarship fund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Humungous
    I would have thought rap would die the horrible death of disco, but I was wrong.
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    Disco LIVES!!!!!
    Oh yah, it's the perfect music for housecleaning . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tock
    I think that would be ABC, CBS, and NBC. Lots more whites there than blacks.
    And no, I don't have any objection to a privately funded "whites only" scholarship fund.
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    There are blacks on those channels. BET is EXCLUSIVELY for blacks. If NBC came out and said it was an EXCLUSIVE WHITE channel, s h i t would hit the fan.

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    I've been talking about creating the NAACP for a LONG time...
    The national association for the advancement of caucasian people. I'm sick of the double standard.. a kid in my class who was my considerable lesser in grades, sats, extracirriculars, athletics, you name it, got into brown over me. A girl i know got rejected from harvard, because according to the school, after her mother called to ask why when she was number one in her class with 1600 sats and number 3 in the state for tennis, president of honor society, etc etc etc, she didn't get in. And they said "unless she's disabled or a minority, she's just another smart white girl."

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    Originally Posted by Tock
    I think that would be ABC, CBS, and NBC. Lots more whites there than blacks.
    And no, I don't have any objection to a privately funded "whites only" scholarship fund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bermich
    There are blacks on those channels. BET is EXCLUSIVELY for blacks. If NBC came out and said it was an EXCLUSIVE WHITE channel, s h i t would hit the fan.

    Yah, but if you tally up the number of whites and the number of blacks, it may as well be a white only network. David Letterman, f'rinstance, has maybe one black guest for every 50 white ones. I haven't seen any black folks on the daytime soaps. Most newsguys are white. I'm not complaining (I don't really care), I'm just saying that's the way it is.

    I will say, though, on the topic of government $$$ for minorities, in looking around at small business loans, there's more gov't programs available for minorities and women than an grumpy white guy. I'd be disqualified for most of 'em anyway on income grounds (I make too much) even if I was black or whatever. But still . . . If I was in the situation where I needed a SBA loan just as much as the Hispanic guy down the street, I sure would be upset if I couldn't get the loan only because I was white.

    (Rant button on) This is what I like about the libertarian philosophy . . . they're all about doing away with all government that isn't specifically specified in the Constitution. If they were running the show, we'd have a military, an election system, a justice system, and that would be about it. Taxes would drop down to around 5%. Of course, the public road system would go to h e l l , but the private sector would take up the slack.
    (Rant button off) . . . there, that rant wasn't too bad, was it?
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    Well, here it is....finally someone steps out of the crowd and stands up to the hypocrisy of a f uckin country we live in. I am sick and tired of Uncle Sam carrying these people on his f ucking back....because he gets the funds from us. I can feel it....as soon as something like this comes around there will be a leftist talking about oppression. I DONT GIVE A ****! Every single ethnic group has been discriminated against at one time or another and somehow managed to get out of it without the government's help. I am sick and tierd of hearing about slavery and segregation....its in the past...it wont happen again. The word minority is also interesting considering whites make up about 9% of the world's population. If this scholarship is shut down then every single affirmative action bulls hit program should be too. It has to work both ways, but unfortunately the way the media is controlled, most of the American public will never see or hear about both sides.

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    That was kind of a random rant but this s hit always gets me going

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    not random, just truth...we feel the same way

    tock, I liked your rant, we are both in agreement that the current system is too big and has too much intervention in the lives of the common citizen.

    I'd love to win that scholarship...I'd give the acceptance speach of a lifetime only to have the black panthers marching down my street the next day

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50%Natural
    not random, just truth...we feel the same way

    I'd love to win that scholarship...I'd give the acceptance speach of a lifetime only to have the black panthers marching down my street the next day

    Thats what I loved about most about this thread....people in agreement. Good to see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 50%Natural
    I'd love to win that scholarship...I'd give the acceptance speach of a lifetime only to have the black panthers marching down my street the next day
    LMFAO! I'm already going over the rough draft of my speach in my head!

    I had a bad feeling that this was going to be a "no non-whites in the Lord of the Rings" crap thread again. I love the idea of a whites-only anything, and until I stop seeing black this and hispanic that, They can all kiss my ass.

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    Amen.

    Quote Originally Posted by motoxxxguy
    LMFAO! I'm already going over the rough draft of my speach in my head!

    I had a bad feeling that this was going to be a "no non-whites in the Lord of the Rings" crap thread again. I love the idea of a whites-only anything, and until I stop seeing black this and hispanic that, They can all kiss my ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    no but... i am from the ghetto man it's a way i was brought up growing up i was the only white kid in an all black crowd. I can't help it it's not a lifestyle i chose i mean i was always in that type of crowd. I do like rock but i still rely on my rap i just hate country and techno music. and I did not know that there were more broke white kids than black. I do not idolize the ghetto and rappers who promote crime and violence. I am young but i am familiar with that lifestyle, i always did what i had to to get by, even if it ment standing outside all day trying to sell a few dimes to eat and get by... my mom was not always home to cook me food she was working trying to keep the heat on and food in the house which she did not do that great of a job, but i love her for trying and taking on 2 jobs.

    A PERFECT REASON ON WHY THERE SHOULD NOT BE MINORITY ONLY SCHOLARSHIPS! YOU PROVED MY POINT

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    Oh man, did ya'll see that the people who applied had to write an essay of why they are proud of their white herritage? OH, that is ****ing awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/02....ap/index.html

    I always thought minorites only scholarships were unfair.. Now someone acctuly has balls to do something about it..
    good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50%Natural
    Oh man, did ya'll see that the people who applied had to write an essay of why they are proud of their white herritage? OH, that is ****ing awesome

    I couldn't write an essay like that . . . I'm white, but largely indifferent to being so. I couldn't care less. Being the pragmatic wank that I am, I (usually) spend my $$$ where I get the most value, and I don't care who's running the shop I do business with. When I cheat on my diet, I go for the best bang for the calorie, and IMHO, it's those slices of frozen Edward's pies in the supermarket. They're a bunch of crazy Xian fundamentalists, but I don't really care. They make a helluva Key Lime pie, they get my business.

    What I think creates all kinds of problems is when folks congregate in like-minded groups and let their constipated opinions of other groups get in the way of constructive interaction. I see it all the time. It's the sort of thing that created slavery, involuntary segregation, sodomy laws, etc. At that point, people get suspicious of each other, become rude and inconsiderate, fear creeps in, and everything goes downhill from there. And like Bush's war in Iraq (I just had to get that in), it's all unnecessary.

    No, we don't all have to sleep in the same bed, but we should be able to get along in the same hotel. Writing angry essays about one's racial heritage ain't the best way to do that . . .
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    Why do people think ny is still bad with crime? Giuliani cleaned this place up nice! Maybe im just used to it but theres only a hand full of towns i would think twice about walking threw at night.I remember when dinkins was in office i had to blow red lights just to get the f out of certain areas. Even got pulled over once for doing this cop let me go said "smart man" LOL

    And i dont think theres anyhting that hasnet been said yet about the scholarships and what not i think its long overdue.
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    You don't have to be angry or arrogant to be proud of who you are. I am very proud of who I am as a person, and that is a direct result of my upbringing, and the family and heritage I was born into. I would have absolutely no problem writing an essay about why I love who I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RageControl
    Why do people think ny is still bad with crime? Giuliani cleaned this place up nice! Maybe im just used to it but theres only a hand full of towns i would think twice about walking threw at night.

    And i dont think theres anyhting that hasnet been said yet about the scholarships and what not i think its long overdue.
    Hmm. If you mean my NY reference, I was referring to 20 years ago. I'm old.

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    i totally agree with the whites only scholarship, all minorities get treated way better today than whites as far as gettin free money, also, does anyone here notice how any other race, except white ppl can say what they like about white ppl, if i had a dollar for everytime a black person or hispanic person said something racists and negative for me, id be able to afford aas for all of us on here. it is ironic they can(minorities) sit back and get so upset with a white person even using the word NI@@er, then sit back and call me racists names, make fun of everthing about our culture, and wonder why we get tired of hearing the angry black man, nothing racial meant by any of this, i just find it sad and boring they(not all, just some) cant see their own stupidity. plz tell me im not the only one here. i personally dont have reservations about anyone, for race or creed, im just tired of seeing ppl on tv badmouthing whites, then whites gettin fired for saying someon is a black quarterback.

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    Being an African American myself, I can say this: if anyone here is angry that the rap industry is dominated by blacks, all I can say is that I too am angry at this. The "hip hop sub-culture" was the worst thing that could happen to blacks. It is morally defunct and inhibits our potential. About special treatment for minorities, I am lukewarm to this. Sometimes the worst thing for a people is a crutch, since it teaches one to never stand on his own two feet. The success of a people cannot come from an exogenous source, but only until they themselves seek it. As the Quran says: "Allah does not change the condition of a people, until they change their inner-selves."

    Of course, there are reasons for why the African American population has created this deleterious sub-culture, namely slavery, racism, and the list goes on. But it is my belief that in the end it will be upto the black people themselves to help themselves, instead of "whining" to others. However, it should be understood for intellectual reasons that the condition of black people can definitely be correlated to the treatment they have received for hundreds of years.

    One of the vehicles of success available to blacks is Islam, through which a black thug turns into a scholar. Anyways, I won't bore you all with any of this...but just wanted to share an opinion from a black person.

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    Lets see... Mike tyson....mike jackson....

    these are all muslim... embracing your beliefs..

    So as a religion... and a way of life.. i see no benefits to a civilized community..

    Other than "Opiate of the Masses"..........

    So if that's what you mean............ then hey........... it is just another yoke that you choose to take on........



    Quote Originally Posted by MedicalStudent
    Being an African American myself, I can say this: if anyone here is angry that the rap industry is dominated by blacks, all I can say is that I too am angry at this. The "hip hop sub-culture" was the worst thing that could happen to blacks. It is morally defunct and inhibits our potential. About special treatment for minorities, I am lukewarm to this. Sometimes the worst thing for a people is a crutch, since it teaches one to never stand on his own two feet. The success of a people cannot come from an exogenous source, but only until they themselves seek it. As the Quran says: "Allah does not change the condition of a people, until they change their inner-selves."

    Of course, there are reasons for why the African American population has created this deleterious sub-culture, namely slavery, racism, and the list goes on. But it is my belief that in the end it will be upto the black people themselves to help themselves, instead of "whining" to others. However, it should be understood for intellectual reasons that the condition of black people can definitely be correlated to the treatment they have received for hundreds of years.

    One of the vehicles of success available to blacks is Islam, through which a black thug turns into a scholar. Anyways, I won't bore you all with any of this...but just wanted to share an opinion from a black person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard
    Lets see... Mike tyson....mike jackson....

    these are all muslim... embracing your beliefs..

    So as a religion... and a way of life.. i see no benefits to a civilized community..

    Other than "Opiate of the Masses"..........

    So if that's what you mean............ then hey........... it is just another yoke that you choose to take on........
    Mike Jackson, a Muslim? Since when? LOL. You really need to get your facts straight.

    As for Mike Tyson, he is mentally insane.

    There are millions of African American Muslims now. Forty-percent or more of Muslims in America are black. And here you are, bringing up two examples...one which doesn't even work.

    Anyways, I didn't mean for this thread to talk about Islam, so let's just go back to the topic at hand. My point was that I don't think it is a good thing that blacks dominate rap, BET, or MTV. Furthermore, I don't really see the point of scholarships based on race. Just my humble opinion.

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    what about the countless other muslims attackin different ppl all over the world, sure in the span of the entire world its not a large number, but it wasnt a large number of slave owners, and all white ppl are blamed for slavery. the same way all black ppl blame all white ppl, we blame most of the terroristic problems on muslims, bc muslims teach hate, and try to bully other nonmembers. the best thing a black person, or any person can do, is take each person as just that, not a black person or white or asian, just a person, the sooner we let go of color, the sooner we wont have to worry about scholarships, until then, its only fair we as white people get a scholarship to match those which minorities have.

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    I'm all for it.

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    You are as a child in your debate style..... completly skipping those things that you do not want to answer..

    and dismissing the issues that you cannot support......

    You continue to be a hypicrite in your opinions.. a racist, and a bigot...

    you and your opinions are offensive..

    And yes........... you should stay more current on your current history..

    Both of your fine brothers with thier unique moral standards... both claim to be just like you.............


    Quote Originally Posted by MedicalStudent
    Mike Jackson, a Muslim? Since when? LOL. You really need to get your facts straight.

    As for Mike Tyson, he is mentally insane.

    There are millions of African American Muslims now. Forty-percent or more of Muslims in America are black. And here you are, bringing up two examples...one which doesn't even work.

    Anyways, I didn't mean for this thread to talk about Islam, so let's just go back to the topic at hand. My point was that I don't think it is a good thing that blacks dominate rap, BET, or MTV. Furthermore, I don't really see the point of scholarships based on race. Just my humble opinion.

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