Not your everyday post

**goodtobeapimp** · 03-02-2004, 01:38 AM

Aaaa

**samoth** · 03-02-2004, 01:48 AM

I refuse to read that if you haven't learned how to use "paragraphs" yet.

**goodtobeapimp** · 03-02-2004, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by samoth

I refuse to read that if you haven't learned how to use "paragraphs" yet.

I could careless if you read it..If your going to be a dick when u reply why even bother to reply?

**LuvMuhRoids** · 03-02-2004, 01:52 AM

Phew man, no doubt...

Originally Posted by samoth

I refuse to read that if you haven't learned how to use "paragraphs" yet.

**Money Boss Hustla** · 03-02-2004, 02:00 AM

Fight!!

**Symian** · 03-02-2004, 02:02 AM

I agree with you on many points, bro. It's just typical reverse prejudice, IMO. Caucasians (PC term

) are stereotyped as prejudice, and I've seen or heard enough commercials about it to make me sick.

I also think that words have different levels of offense to them. "Nigger" was used with a lot of hate. Where as "redneck" or "honkey", while still derogatory, aren't as offensive, IMO.

Sym

**goodtobeapimp** · 03-02-2004, 02:12 AM

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I also think that words have different levels of offense to them. "Nigger" was used with a lot of hate. Where as "redneck" or "honkey", while still derogatory, aren't as offensive, IMO.

Sym[/QUOTE]

I agree with you at the level of offense,but what would be the equal to "nigger" for a white guy???? Hell you cant call him much more then that. Every white man isnt racist.. Let me rephrase that every white man that doesnt grow up in cities populated with many cultures is racist. Its really aggervating that it's ok to discriminate against you because your white but its not because someone else is a different race.

**goodtobeapimp** · 03-02-2004, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla

Fight!!

Sorry bro no fight...Nothing really intended towards samoth or luvmyroids. I just get tired of seeing people post smarta$s remarks on AR. Why bother replying to something if you arent going to at least talk about the subject?

I see this going on a lot on here..By far the worst board i visit as far as flaming people and comments that dont pertain to the subject.. I could have used better spacing for your eyes pleasure but i didnt. So dont read it if you dont want to,but its pointless this is the way SOME people on AR are.

**Symian** · 03-02-2004, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by goodtobeapimp

I agree with you at the level of offense,but what would be the equal to "nigger" for a white guy???? Hell you cant call him much more then that. Every white man isnt racist.. Let me rephrase that every white man that doesnt grow up in cities populated with many cultures is racist. Its really aggervating that it's ok to discriminate against you because your white but its not because someone else is a different race.

I don't think there is one, really. But if you think about it, it's not the word alone. It's the history behind the word. I can think of some pretty bad words for Jews and Arabs, but that's because they have a hateful history behind them. JMO

Sym

**LuvMuhRoids** · 03-02-2004, 02:54 AM

I wasnt being smart a$$ anyways but that post origianlly was making me dizzy all typed straight with no paragraph breaks.

**samoth** · 03-02-2004, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by goodtobeapimp

Sorry bro no fight...Nothing really intended towards samoth or luvmyroids. I just get tired of seeing people post smarta$s remarks on AR. Why bother replying to something if you arent going to at least talk about the subject?

I see this going on a lot on here..By far the worst board i visit as far as flaming people and comments that dont pertain to the subject.. I could have used better spacing for your eyes pleasure but i didnt. So dont read it if you dont want to,but its pointless this is the way SOME people on AR are.

If you are to present yourself in public, you should do so properly. If you present yourself like a adolescent AOL user with the educational equivalent of primary school, you will be taken as such.

Further, if this is the worst place for 'flaming' you have seen, one must conclude that you do not get out much in the internet discussion board world.

Thank you for the edit, I do appreciate it.

As for your post, I believe it to be a stale, overdone argument that usually serves no purpose other than to elicit racial and anti-racial driven responses based upon your use of offensive racial slurs.

**Testify** · 03-02-2004, 01:48 PM

I remember having this debate in college . . . I believe it is a reflection of our social structure. These terms are seen as less offensive because their object - whites and white culture - is the "majority" or dominant race. I am sure that if we (caucasians) were a true minority, the situation would be seen differently.

**ColdSore** · 03-02-2004, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Testify

I remember having this debate in college . . . I believe it is a reflection of our social structure. These terms are seen as less offensive because their object - whites and white culture - is the "majority" or dominant race. I am sure that if we (caucasians) were a true minority, the situation would be seen differently.

yes i had this in a communications class last year...my prof basically said what you said, but it took that old fukk an hour to do so

**spywizard** · 03-02-2004, 02:11 PM

Did you ever meet a black person who was not a raciest????

**D-END** · 03-02-2004, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by spywizard

Did you ever meet a black person who was not a raciest????

I'm black and not prejudice or racist. I have heard this debated before at my college and the out come is usually the same. The word Nigger was used by slave owners and it meant: ignorant or uneducated, lazy and dirty. Since the word was used only by white americans and europeans during the first years of the triangle trade nigger became the same thing as saying black. The reason IMO that it bothers people is because it reminds us of our countries ugly history(linchings,oppression, racism, slavery ext.)
The word Nigger does not bother me because by defintion I know that I'm not one.

**zx7racing** · 03-02-2004, 03:26 PM

get over it redneck (i'm one too if you must classify people) its our society, its politically correct, its BS...
we are all going to suffer from some sort of racism throughout our lives- its going to take generations upon generations to get past the barriers weve put up around ourselves- so wheather i call someone a nigger or someone calls me a honkey- i could really care less..

**DNoMac** · 03-02-2004, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Symian

I don't think there is one, really. But if you think about it, it's not the word alone. It's the history behind the word. I can think of some pretty bad words for Jews and Arabs, but that's because they have a hateful history behind them. JMO

Sym

I have to agree with Symian. It's all about the history behind the word. There are bad words for just about every race, some worse than others. In my group of friends, we have just about one of EVERY major minority (does that make sense?). We make light of it by joking about our races, but thats because we are past the simple mindset of racists. We all got love for each other no matter if we are a bunch of towelheads, crackers, wet backs, chinks, and porch monkeys.

**daman1** · 03-02-2004, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by goodtobeapimp

I'm a young male. I like to discuss a lot of issues that involve just about anyone or anything. I like to talk about working out, diets, sports,politics. Here's something I had a discussion about with one of my buddies the other day,and i think its something not too many people think about. Its not to offend anyone so no need to take it too deep,unless desired. Does anyone ever notice how people are always saying "redneck, honky,etc.... I live in a small town in ohio and i hear soooooo many people use those words around here. Funny how noone here is screwing their sisters or whatever people seem to think..

See i could take the jokes and what not without a problem but lets see here if someone on here posted goodtobeapimp is a honky people wouldnt care but if i said goodtobeapimp is a nigger. Everyone and their brother would have a heart attack. I'm not really aiming this at the board,even though it seems that way.. I'm aiming it at every person that has ever said "honkey" or "redneck" but feels the word "nigger" is a bad word.. I say if one of the words is considered racist slang they all are. I know a lot of white people that say "redneck" the same way black people use the word "nigga" likes its just claimin their race. Which is fine if that is the way you want to present yourself.

I seen the previews to the movie "The Barber Shop part 2' and there was some joke talkin about a fat white woman. Now lets see if I had a movie that was based in northern kentucky and a guy said something about a fat black woman. **** wouldnt that cause a mess?

Keep in mind im not racist. This isn't a racist thread. I just get sick of hearing all the people that arent from "redneck towns" talk about rednecks. Hmm what if a black guy came out with "You might be a nigga" Wonder if everyone would have tshirts that say "you might be a nigga if...." I think jeff foxworthy popularized the saying,but im pretty sure he's a "redneck" if not i dont know what he is then..For some reason,even if it was written by a black man,I dont think "You might be a nigga" would catch on like "You might be a redneck" because everyone wants to poke a good joke on a white guy..

This post had been edited for samoth,because he refuses to read my posts because they were not properly spaced. I will pm him from now on that why he can check everything i do because im whole hearted caring about his replies.....

What part of Ohio are you from?

**animal-inside** · 03-02-2004, 05:30 PM

my complaint..Me, my dad and my grand dad NEVER not once had one thing to do with slavery.. so drop the "the world owes you something because your black". We shoudl never forget how wrong slavery was, but give up on the fact that someone owes you something because someone way back in your family tree was a slave, especially when you live in one of the best coutries in the world.

If black people would stop calling each other "nigger" and things along that line there would be FAR less racism. I mean wheres a 5 year old learn the words? yes sometimes from his family, but most often its in songs and from black people.. If they stopped using the word it would have a easier time remvoing itself from our language. Why do black peopel even use it? If it refers to your culture liek soemone sort of stated above then you can not take offensive when someone not black uses the word. I am 1/3 Native American, I don't say to other natives "whats up savage?". And if i did then I would expect people to freely use the word. If black people use it should not be considered racist. Because its almost in a way encouraging the use.. Don't say it and theres a better chance no one else will.. BLACK PEOPLE ARE ONLY MAKING RACISM WORSE FOR THEMSELVES BY USING THE WORDS . I am not racist at all. If there were slaves in Can/USA who were freed today I woudl deffinitly say tax dollars should be spent on righting the situation. Society can not elimante or lower racism when people keep bringing it up including black people.. If all the children born from here on in were never explaned what nigger means how woudl thy know to call someone a nigger to offend them? RACISM IS A LEARNED THING. No child would ever consider being racist if they are not exposed to the words and ideas which are a major theme in music movies and dialogue.. Now I know that there are racist parents who raise there kids to be racist. I know you can not do much to prevent these kids from learning how to be racist.

I am not sure if this all came out the way I wanted it too, but I think the idea is here. By the way i am not racist in anyway.

**Animal Cracker** · 03-03-2004, 01:30 AM

Nigger=inner city blacks
redneck=rural whites
No difference. I told a nigger joke after a "colored" coworker was telling redneck jokes...I was almost keel hauled! Strange times we are in..however once I made the argument above..that it is socio-economic groups that people are attempting to insult..all was fine.

**allsaucedup** · 03-03-2004, 08:12 AM

as a white male i feel that there is deffinatly a double standard when comes to the use of these terms, but i also believe that there is good reason. The term "nigger" was used by my ancestors during the slavery and persacution of our afro-american bro's. For this i see the no reason why myself or anyone else in my race should use this word ever again towards a black person. i do not feel that as a white man i have the right to take as much offense to being called a honky as black man does when called the "N" word. No one in my blood line was ever called a honky then beaten with a whip. or forced to work without being paid, or sold and ripped away from his family. therfore if being called a honky or a cracker is the punishment that my race faces for holding down a race of human beings for so long then i accept it. its not right and most educated or half way intellegent people dont use these words but hay thats just my .02

**spywizard** · 03-03-2004, 09:36 AM

Well it's nice to meet you................and from chicago.......isn't that a contridiction???

I want to see a nation where i see a person walking down the street... not a black man... an mexican... an white man............

just a man........... but i fear i will never see it in my lifetime... and i only have 40 years to go...........

Originally Posted by D-END

I'm black and not prejudice or racist. I have heard this debated before at my college and the out come is usually the same. The word Nigger was used by slave owners and it meant: ignorant or uneducated, lazy and dirty. Since the word was used only by white americans and europeans during the first years of the triangle trade nigger became the same thing as saying black. The reason IMO that it bothers people is because it reminds us of our countries ugly history(linchings,oppression, racism, slavery ext.)
The word Nigger does not bother me because by defintion I know that I'm not one.

**goodtobeapimp** · 03-03-2004, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by daman1

What part of Ohio are you from?

I live a few miles outside of athens,bro...

**Carlos_E** · 03-03-2004, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by samoth

As for your post, I believe it to be a stale, overdone argument that usually serves no purpose other than to elicit racial and anti-racial driven responses based upon your use of offensive racial slurs.

Indeed

**DADDYDBOL** · 03-03-2004, 05:26 PM

You know what upsets me is that in every cultural/race there has been some type of oppression, it happens, get over it. I am 1/2 German 1/4 Italian and 1/4 Irish, I am also Catholic so does that mean that I should go fight for the rights of my people in Ireland? No because I was born in Houston, raised in a very nice upper middle class neighborhood where about 30% were black but they had no feelings that I or any other white person owed them anything because they were brought up just like me. Another thing is they are actually educated, the blacks that come from poverty are usually fairly uneducated and are raised with a sense of "I do not have the work ethic to achieve anything on my own so I will blame someone else and act like the world owes me something". Sorry but all you get from Daddy is a kick in the a$$. I liked the thread on a white scholorship, whats good for the goose is good for the gander. I refuse to listen to a black man if he is my age and talking about how he or his people suffered...get over it. You have more chances for sucess than I do, I don't hate you for it or want it changed, just take advantage of it and shut the fu(k up...

**D-END** · 03-03-2004, 11:38 PM

[QUOTE=spywizard]Well it's nice to meet you................and from chicago.......isn't that a contridiction???

What?

**BDTR** · 03-03-2004, 11:44 PM

Insults are insults, plain and simple they're meant to hurt. There's no difference to me between calling someone fat and calling someone nigger or anything else. Cracker, nigger etc.. All the same. They all hurt people, so why put them in different catagories? When you insult someone, you want them to be, well.... Insulted.

**BOUNCER** · 03-04-2004, 12:28 PM

Well said bdtr. As for the word Nigger and its historical significance have a look here;

http://www.journale.com/withoutsanctuary/

Its very disturbing and not for the faint hearted.

**decadbal** · 03-04-2004, 12:54 PM

goodtobesheltered...."Every white man isnt racist.. Let me rephrase that every white man that doesnt grow up in cities populated with many cultures is racist"

whats that mean? i didnt grow up in a city, i grew up in a town with one family of black ppl, and im not racists, for most part, none of the people from where i grew up were. so where did u get this info of yours? ohio? there are bigots everywhere, and just bc someone is from a small town doesnt make them racists to other cultures, maybe nieve to them, but thats uncontrollable, and for the most part, the most racists ppl i have ever met are from cities. when ppl use words like nigger, redneck, honkey or any other term like that, they just show what they are. ppl all fit a catagory, but one being based on race or religion is simply a method for your insecurities to show. id def think that you shouldnt display to the rest of the board that all ppl from a small town are uncultured or racists, your all of what, 19, 20 learn a lesson, when you dont know something, keep your mouth shut. and you might wanna venture out of ohio before you start making assumptions on how all ppl in the world are..........backwards ****in ass

***Cycleon*** · 03-04-2004, 05:24 PM

I am dam n tired of African Americans

or for that matter, Irish Americans, Hispanic, Jewish, Chinese, Arab, Italian or who gives a rats ass Americans

When they begin to see themselves as AMERICANS - not ____________ Americans - then maybe real Americans can except them as Americans too -

untill them, dont bother me whining about racism and how someones ancestors did you wrong - dont be such a pathetic weasel - get your head out of your ass and start working for it - you can make whatever happen you are willing to dedicate yourself to in this country. Anyone think that Condi Rice is just there because she is a woman with a dark tan?

Racism is mostly a copout because people collectively want to blame someone else for their own failure to get off their sorry ass - and in "black peoples" case - the sad buying into liberal agenda of keeping them poor by convincing them that they are indeed stupid and cant do anything without the great white democrat handing out some crumbs to them (for which he purchases their vote) - funny how you never see liberals hire because of their talent - only because they dont have white skin - while the patritian hypocrit leaders (kerry, dean, mcaullife) Tell me "black people" - what democrat has ever elevated one of "your kind" to a REAL position of power? who do they allow instead? why, its the Right Reverend Al Sharpton - if you could only see what pathetic fools you are being played for - and I weep for all those young people, such potential pissed away because of an identity sold to them by hucksters who only think to pad their own pocket while these young lives are destroyed in hopelessness

**samoth** · 03-04-2004, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by CYCLEON

When they begin to see themselves as AMERICANS - not ____________ Americans - then maybe real Americans can except them as Americans too -

That should read "When WE begin to see OURSELVES as Americans.

If someone is caucasion, african, asian, indian, ad infinitum... they are thusly so according to society. I cannot choose to not be caucasion, that is my... well, I guess official/legal, designation. Many legal forms ask for race. If one wishes to enter another country as a citizen, they must fill out what 'race' they are.

As an aside, I never really understood, from a scientific/factual viewpoint, why a light-skinned person is considered a different 'race' than a dark-skinned person. Why differentiate by skin tone, and not by hair colour, eye colour, fixed versus attached earlobes, widow's peaks, ad nauseum?