I was on the radio representing....

**Butch** · 03-10-2004, 10:54 AM

So here it is....yhesterday morning on the way into the gym our local radio station in LA (KROQ) was doing a segment on juice. They were talking about the baseball players and why do they take it and does it have any advantage and stuff like that. So they had a doctor come on and talk about roids...of course he talked about the negative shiat about it and that it shrinks your nuts, gives you bitch tits and all this other stuff that they say about steriods . So I disagreed with this dude and knew that no one was going to defend us athletes...so I decided to call in and set some things straight.

I called in and got right in....I told the screener that what they were saying was true...but that there was others things you could do to counterbalance it. So the screener told me to hang on....and in like two seconds I was speaking on the radio. They opened up with asking me if I take juice...I said I knew people who have...LMFAO...then they asked me about the nuts shrinking...I told the that they do but after 3 weeks or so (give or take) an idividual is to take clomid which will drop your nuts back down to there natural state where they can then again produce natural test....I said some of us call these pills "ball droppers"....the DJs asked the doc if I was right...shiat, the doc thought for a couple of seconds and then said I was exactly right...but he of course said that clomid was made for women to help them get prgenant or some shiat like that....then the Dj's asked if I had bitch tits and I told them no that is why I take nolvadex ...they were blown away....becasue of all the negative symptoms the doc had mentioned before I called, I had a drug you could take to counterbalance this ****. Anyway, they then asked me why I take them...I said it is a self gratification thing...it helps an idividual get to the next stage of BBing...they then asked why I would harm my body...I said BBer's are some of the most healthy individuals due to strict diets and knowledge of what their body is doing....I then siad that we are putting toxins in our body...but it was no different than those who drink and smoke...we just look better...lol.

They then said a couple of other things and we hung up....I thought i would share this with you...I thought it was funny and cool...but it just goes to show you that the doctors will always tell you the negative with never looking at the positve....of roids.

**monster.** · 03-10-2004, 10:59 AM

Thats cool sh!t bro!!!! Defintley..

**Butch** · 03-10-2004, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by monster.

Thats cool sh!t bro!!!! Defintley..

I know...I was pretty geeked all day thinking about it....I like to think I was a celebrity for 5 minutes....LMAO

**tryingtogetbig** · 03-10-2004, 12:01 PM

that is pretty cool....hope they didn't have caller ID to give to the police!!!

Just kidding...I'm sure they wouldn't do that....glad you were able to enlighten a few individuals.

PS...Crusty sucks!!!

peace,

ttgb

**daem** · 03-10-2004, 12:31 PM

you should have dropped AR's name and given everyone here props for being such great bros

or you could have plugged allsports too

im sure jason would have sent you some goodies for tactful advertising.

**caturpilar** · 03-10-2004, 01:43 PM

NICE! I bet it felt good to catch that doc of guard. Kudos, bro. Now we just need to get u on to Larry King.

**spywizard** · 03-10-2004, 01:57 PM

5minutes of being famous... 10 more to go...

everyone is famous for 15 minutes in thier life.,,,,,

Good job......

**Mr. Death** · 03-10-2004, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by tryingtogetbig

PS...Crusty sucks!!!

Now if you could only convince Rusty that if he took roids he might finally win a race. But I doubt it.

**LilVito469** · 03-10-2004, 03:18 PM

good job bro....you shoulda gave AR a shout out but then it could probably draw negative attention that the board doesn't want unles u just said AR...i mean if you said the full website thats another story...

**Butch** · 03-10-2004, 03:37 PM

LOL....you all are too funny...I was thinking about representing AR...but we don't need the negative attention

It was great catching the doc off guard...especially when I told them about Nolva's

My boy Rusty needs something....I don't know if roids would help him...I hope he wins one this year...if not then I may have to find another driver...but then I would feel like a trader....

**juicehoe** · 03-10-2004, 06:41 PM

Thats sweat.. i love calling the radio up on the way to and from school when they give bad info. But i have yet been able to call them out on juice. You da man

**caturpilar** · 03-10-2004, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Butch

My boy Rusty needs something....I don't know if roids would help him...I hope he wins one this year...if not then I may have to find another driver...but then I would feel like a trader....

Being a DEI fan, (I may get tarred and feathered for saying that) I was most disappointed this past weekend. I mean Jr made more stops to the garage than the pits. Then Mike took a nasty one into the wall. At least McMurry did awesome (Still gotta root for the home team)

**daman1** · 03-10-2004, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by monster.

Thats cool sh!t bro!!!! Defintley..

no doubt.....represent bro...

**Butch** · 03-11-2004, 11:01 AM

I have to do my part in making people know the real story instead of the "doctor" story. Sometimes they just don't know....I even once had to inform my doctor on what clomid was and what it did for a gearhound....lmao. They go to school and learn all this shiat for we can pay them for the advice and expertise...and you come to realize they don't know everything...oh well, that's why we have knowledgable dudes here!

**Butch** · 03-11-2004, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by caturpilar

Being a DEI fan, (I may get tarred and feathered for saying that) I was most disappointed this past weekend. I mean Jr made more stops to the garage than the pits. Then Mike took a nasty one into the wall. At least McMurry did awesome (Still gotta root for the home team)

I think ever since Rusty changed from a Ford to a Dodge he has been getting his ass kicked...wait...the car isn't what is the matter....Rusty needs to get his head out of his ass.

Hey Cat', the DEI team is my nexted favorite....you have to like Jr., he is a great driver....but I cannot root for them full-time until Rusty retires.....

**rujulus** · 03-11-2004, 11:06 AM

Good sh*t bro, the more people that know the real truth the better.

**juicehoe** · 03-11-2004, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Butch

...They go to school and learn all this shiat for we can pay them for the advice and expertise...and you come to realize they don't know everything...oh well, that's why we have knowledgable dudes here!

I love it in "good will hunting" when he tells the guy you just droped all that money for the same thing i got for free at the public library. Anytime your well educated on something... you come to find out how many people are really full of ****.

**Fuller** · 03-11-2004, 11:30 AM

Very good job bro. I am SOOOO sick of hearing people talk about all the negatives of as use. I hear it every day, no matter where i am, i swear to god!! The **** people talk is totally funny, yet very few have even the slitest idea of what they are speaking. I joined this board back in dec of 2003, and i t i know more already than most docs and all these "so called experts" do that u see on tv. It is just a total joke, and i am sick of it!! I am out Fuller Again props to u Rusty......

**decadbal** · 03-11-2004, 11:39 AM

good job big time, its awesome when ppl down aas and you shove it back at em isnt it....great job bro, let the know that the otherside of the fence isnt filled with retards and rapists like we are made out to be...some kind of caveman.. awesome stuff bro.

**juicehoe** · 03-11-2004, 11:45 AM

Yea even when you make educated remarks... they always keep pulling out the studies (this is a tell tale sign of someone who doesnt know **** lol). Thats when i pull out the "anti-study card"... when the government used to say steroids didnt promote muscle growth. People look at everything so black and white.

**Butch** · 03-11-2004, 12:44 PM

Uneducated people...who only believe the so called experts....bunch of bullsh*t...but unfortunatly you can not educate these people because they think you are only telling them your side of the story....and they will always believe a dude who did 8 years of college over a guy who only did 4....

Juicehoe, said it best....it is just like the movie...f u c king idiot doctor only told the listers of what he read...but did he read a book that was written by a steriod user...noooo, he only read the one from some pencil dick geek from Harvard....

**Roy E. Munson** · 03-11-2004, 01:17 PM

I can't thank you enough for doing what you did. It's about time someone stood up for the educated user. I'm talking about the people who don't abuse the stuff, do it right, come off right, eat right, and RESEARCH right. It's time the public gets a little knowledge on this subject. Real knowlege and not just the negative horrors and myths.
And I don't care who you are if you have done the right research and learned what is neccesary to use roids and have actual experience no amount of college education can replace that. Untill you've been there and done it and seen it for yourself you have no idea. People adopt this holier-than-tho attitude about this stuff and treat it like it's crack or heroin thats B.S. THANK YOU AGIAN!!!

**Butch** · 03-11-2004, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Roy E. Munson

I can't thank you enough for doing what you did. It's about time someone stood up for the educated user. I'm talking about the people who don't abuse the stuff, do it right, come off right, eat right, and RESEARCH right. It's time the public gets a little knowledge on this subject. Real knowlege and not just the negative horrors and myths.
And I don't care who you are if you have done the right research and learned what is neccesary to use roids and have actual experience no amount of college education can replace that. Untill you've been there and done it and seen it for yourself you have no idea. People adopt this holier-than-tho attitude about this stuff and treat it like it's crack or heroin thats B.S. THANK YOU AGIAN!!!

Your welcome...just doing my part!

**RON** · 03-11-2004, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Butch

LOL....you all are too funny...I was thinking about representing AR...but we don't need the negative attention

Good call bro we don't need the national attention from the anti-roid people right now. It would only harm our way of life IMO.

Who's show was it on? Sounds cool bro. I've been on the Jim Rome show to tell some Cornhusker fan off after after my beloved UofM had to share the title with those clowns a few years back. It was a rush. I call KROQ all the time to win tickets but never get through

**jeffylyte** · 03-11-2004, 03:32 PM

good job! of course its no surprise to me that you blew the doctor away. by and large med dr.s don't know this stuff. a doctor is the auto mechanic of the body. he hooks the thing up to a machine and it spits out a number that he looks at on a chart to tell him whats wrong. i havent met a single doctor who actually knows how the drugs work or about the intricacies of the tests they use. simple stuff like false positive and false negative rates (as a general rule tests are set to a false positive rate in asymptomatic people of 5% or less, this means false negatives can be as high as 30%!). Keep in mind this includes my brother who is in IM.

The study stuff is valid IMO. The problem is that people just look at the final numbers and assume or gloss over teh details. I look at studies all the time and if you get into them and look at contradictory findings as well then you get a clear picture. It always looks bad for the person who cites a paper without knowing the other stuff out there.

now if we could just get them to bring back ephedra! (i know we can still get it, but still)

**Butch** · 03-11-2004, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by RON

Good call bro we don't need the national attention from the anti-roid people right now. It would only harm our way of life IMO.

Who's show was it on? Sounds cool bro. I've been on the Jim Rome show to tell some Cornhusker fan off after after my beloved UofM had to share the title with those clowns a few years back. It was a rush. I call KROQ all the time to win tickets but never get through

RON you bitch I was waiting for you to respond...of all people you would know who and what KROQ is...lol. Anyway, it was at 5:45am Kevin and Bean Show. The funny thing is I called and they (the screeners) picked up on the first ring...lol. Too bad you weren't listening at that time...you could of high foved me....

**PuddleMonkey** · 03-12-2004, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by RON

I've been on the Jim Rome show to tell some Cornhusker fan off after after my beloved UofM had to share the title with those clowns a few years back.

RACK 'EM!

**Animal Cracker** · 03-12-2004, 08:44 AM

Right on

**newtogear** · 04-07-2004, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Roy E. Munson

I can't thank you enough for doing what you did. It's about time someone stood up for the educated user. I'm talking about the people who don't abuse the stuff, do it right, come off right, eat right, and RESEARCH right. It's time the public gets a little knowledge on this subject. Real knowlege and not just the negative horrors and myths.
And I don't care who you are if you have done the right research and learned what is neccesary to use roids and have actual experience no amount of college education can replace that. Untill you've been there and done it and seen it for yourself you have no idea. People adopt this holier-than-tho attitude about this stuff and treat it like it's crack or heroin thats B.S. THANK YOU AGIAN!!!

i hear you, bro. i've told a good friend of mine that i'm going to be doing a cycle and his knee jerk reaction was that i'm going to fuk myself up w/ that stuff. i told him about researching and doing it right to minimize problems and he was still skeptical, referencing all the usual mainstream aberrant sensationalism stories, misinformation, and propaganda.

the funny thing is, my friend spends a fortune on coke, weed, alcohol, ectasy, illegal prescription pain killers, etc....year round..... and he's telling ME that I'M going to mess my body up? i drink socially every now and then and i don't smoke cigs, and the only drugs i've ever done was a little weed back in college. i work out, he doesn't. what does any of those drugs he's taking do for him? just a temporary good feeling, money gone from the wallet, and physical damage? not that i'm coming down on someone for taking any drugs b/c it's there bodies and it's not my business what other people do w/ their bodies. but he's trying to make me feel guilty when i'm going to be careful w/ a drug that will improve my physical appearance, confidence, and possibly my health if done right. i don't make other people feel guilty about anything.

all these people in the media pointing out all the negatives of gear and they don't even realize all the stuff we do to counter all of those very negatives they mention. heck, i'm paying 2 times the amt on protectant drugs than i am on the actual juice! my test-e is costing me $225 and my anti-e's and pct's are costing me $400. but, these people, like that doctor, don't even realize that. they have no idea. if they say your hair will fall out, there's finasteride....bittch tiits or water retention, nolva, ldex, proviron .....balls shrinking, clomid, hcg , trib....acne, accutane, antibiotics, et al.....high blood pressure, bp meds, q10, oderless garlic, et al......high choleserol, lipotor, fish oils, et al.....loss of gains after cycle (and many don't even know about cycling), clomid, nolva, trib, proper training, rest, calories, protein, rest, glutamine, et al.

**palequail** · 04-07-2004, 10:52 PM

**** buddy you were on Kevin and Bean. I love that show....listen to it every morning on my way to class. So stoked that you hooked up all the boys!!!! I've been educating all my close friends and co-workers lately. They are all realizing that it isn't that bad.....and of course they all want to look better so they are constantly asking for advice.