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    over rated arnold

    well im gonna start a war now, so here goes. arnold is way over rated, his physique for the time was ok, but still wasnt as great as i read guys make it out to be here. no triceps, no obliques, no legs, his chest and bis. thats it, other than his ego... he has nothing. columbo looked 10x better, so did frank zane as far as symntry goes. so thats my view... let the war begin...lol

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    Robby Robinson looked way better then Arnold and Frank Zane!

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    I was thinking the SAME THING. I caught part of Conan the barbian last night and was looking at his body. Sure he was more into acting at that time but he wasnt all that great compared to most. Even his traps were weak compared to most bodybuilders. Yesteryear in bodybuilding can no longer even compete with todays, but even then, he got lucky and had popularity on his side.
    Im glad he won most of the competitions because he helped change the sport and get it more recognized. He also contributes a lot to the sport....

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    I think a lot of the craze over Arnold was started because women were crazy over him because of his accent and muscles, since there wernt a lot of really big guys back when he 1st came around. And that being said, a lot of men may think hes so great because he got a lot of women and good looking women at that. Hummmm maybe im just over analyzing things... like a woman.. oh well

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    Arnold's 1980 Mr. O was bull****. Frank Zane should of won!

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    Let me correct something from my last post... there were not a lot of really big guys in the media, and films when he 1st came around.... there were big guys in BBing , etc..

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    Franco was better built then Arnold but was overshadowed by Arnolds height. Anyone see pumping iron? Franco should have won that olympia! As for MrO 1980 are we forgetting Mentzer??

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    haters.. arnold IS bodybuilding.

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    I agree somewhat.

    Quote Originally Posted by HiFi
    haters.. arnold IS bodybuilding.
    Sergio was the big start and Arnold was the punchline. Without Arnold our Sport would be further behind than it is now. Arnold was the best thing for his era. I only have good things to say about Arnie. Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron
    Robby Robinson looked way better then Arnold and Frank Zane!
    I think robby robinson looked great too. But Zane looks like an over sized E.T

    decadbal: No tris? how do you figure that!? 22inch arms... his arms were jaw droping amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime
    Franco was better built then Arnold but was overshadowed by Arnolds height. Anyone see pumping iron? Franco should have won that olympia! As for MrO 1980 are we forgetting Mentzer??
    I agree that Arnold beat Franco because of his height. Listen to Arnold when he is in the audience watching Franco pose. He is amazed by Franco's physique.

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    Steve up there is still the ultimate in my book.

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    I think Lee Priest looks 10x better than Ronnie Coleman, but does that mean that Ronnie is overrated? Well, probably, but still.

    It is the freaks, however they are defined by their generation, that gain the publicity. Franco had much better symmetry, I agree. But for acting, intelligence, drive and perseverence in all aspects of life I think Arnold surpasses any bodybuilder of any generation sans none.

    But Sergio... I never understood why he wasn't more popular? Let me rephrase... I'm sure he was, but he never seemed to be in the spotlight nearly as much as Arnold and company. Why was that?

    I never liked Zane. Don't know why, just never preferred his body style or asthetics. Mentzer had a solid physique, but I never saw anything he had that would top Arnold, Columbo, or Sergio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decadbal
    well im gonna start a war now, so here goes. arnold is way over rated, his physique for the time was ok, but still wasnt as great as i read guys make it out to be here. no triceps, no obliques, no legs, his chest and bis. thats it, other than his ego... he has nothing. columbo looked 10x better, so did frank zane as far as symntry goes. so thats my view... let the war begin...lol
    Decabal, this may be the first and only time we agree. I can't stand the way people idolize Arnold. To me he's nothing special. I like his movies but that's it. As far as a body builder, I've seen better.

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    as far as his 22 inche arms go, imagine if he had some tris.. he doenst, look at his pics, all bicep, tiny girl triceps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Decabal, this may be the first and only time we agree. I can't stand the way people idolize Arnold. To me he's nothing special. I like his movies but that's it. As far as a body builder, I've seen better.
    He was tall and semi-blond. That went a long way in making someone popular back then.

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    not really, it was all california based, and at the time those ppl were supposedly years ahead of the rest of the US.. i dont see why anyone liked him

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    Quote Originally Posted by inheritmylife
    He was tall and semi-blond. That went a long way in making someone popular back then.

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    He had a look. A look good enough to get him into the movies as a 20 million dollar a movie actor. that is the basis of his poular appeal. Tall, hansome, and jacked. Pretty good building blocks to make someone an idol of sorts.

    Bodybuilding wise, he was definately not universaly dominant over his competitors. There were many traits that others had him beat in.

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    Well I do agree in 80' Columbo should have won and Robby should have won more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decadbal
    as far as his 22 inche arms go, imagine if he had some tris.. he doenst, look at his pics, all bicep, tiny girl triceps...
    Girl triceps? I guess your women is packing better tris then this:



    And this one because his arms are awesome lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicehoe
    Girl triceps? I guess your women is packing better tris then this:



    And this one because his arms are awesome lol

    Yea no SH!T......This is not even a topic worth debating....Let the pictures speak for them selves.

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    they have, and his tris are am. where you from in ga bro

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    BOW DOWN before ARNOLD or feel My wrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by decadbal
    tiny girl triceps...
    should I be offended?????

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    I agree that Columbo looked better than Arnold.

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    Well, I for one agree that arnold IS overrated.

    Yes at one time he was awesome, heck he was THE bodybuilder... but his time came and went. That he is still worshipped today has more to do with his great PR machine than his (still impressive) body.

    Other awesome BB's are just as deserving as he is of admiration and all, they just never had his hollywood PR machine to back them.

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    The reason Arnold is such a big deal is cuz he was the FIRST big thing to really hit bodyduilding. I still think hes the best BBer ever, i think hes better than the guys now, i think all around the guys back then looked a whole lot better then the guys now, theres too much bull**** today in BBing back then it was just the basics, far better IMO. And i honestly think he looked better than all the guys back then too.

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    Today top BBs are freaks full of juice. Now all they care about is how big they can get and how many CCs they can shoot before they die. Back then during Arnolds time it was all about shape about sculpting the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime
    Franco was better built then Arnold but was overshadowed by Arnolds height. Anyone see pumping iron? Franco should have won that olympia! As for MrO 1980 are we forgetting Mentzer??
    I agree. "The Bat" should've won. But thats just the plite of the short guy.

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    i think it would be pretty hard to have 22 inch arms without any tris...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LM1332
    Today top BBs are freaks full of juice. Now all they care about is how big they can get and how many CCs they can shoot before they die. Back then during Arnolds time it was all about shape about sculpting the body.

    or if they live past 30...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross3814
    or if they live past 30...
    Who told you this lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross3814
    or if they live past 30...

    none of the top bodybuilders are under 30, i think ronnie is like going on 40

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    Quote Originally Posted by decadbal
    well im gonna start a war now, so here goes. arnold is way over rated, his physique for the time was ok, but still wasnt as great as i read guys make it out to be here. no triceps, no obliques, no legs, his chest and bis. thats it, other than his ego... he has nothing. columbo looked 10x better, so did frank zane as far as symntry goes. so thats my view... let the war begin...lol
    Other then Ronnies Quads, I think arnie looks better.. Anyone can have a GH gut if you run enough of it.. I like to think of it as: Arnie as to Dr. J, as Ronnie to Jordan.. Both very impressive, as far as zane, and columbo should of won - I think not, it's about 'most muscular human' Arnie has more muscle..

    You guys be the judge:
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    Quote Originally Posted by monster.
    You guys be the judge:
    Arnie needs more legs. He's top heavy in that picture.

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    To me Ronnie looks almost bloated, but he is huge and shredded at 294lbs on stage.. I can't imagine 294lbs with 4% bf.. Thats why i say he is like Michael Jordan to bodybuilding, no body comes close..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Arnie needs more legs. He's top heavy in that picture.
    Yep top heavy is an understatement... Ronnie owns for sure, but arnies lats, arms, calves, chest.. I think he looks better then ronnie..

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    Quote Originally Posted by monster.
    Yep top heavy is an understatement... Ronnie owns for sure, but arnies lats, arms, calves, chest.. I think he looks better then ronnie..
    Well, I'm looking at over all symmetry not each individual body part. Being top heavy is glaring at me and I think it's ugly.

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    Arnold had bigger calves then Ronnie, now thats freaky, how can we have a mr O without calves!?!?

    Arnold is the man, you will all burn for not worshipping him!

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