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    Frustrated As Hell

    Started my cycle 3 weeks ago was taking 100mg prop eod
    and 350mg eq/week for the first 2 weeks
    bumped it up to 75mg ed and 500mg a week of eq
    havent gained a single pound so far... cant figure out why .. i know the prop is good i had it tested..
    only problem is during the weeks im workign 50-60 hours doing construction all day.. lugging stuff and alot of outdoor work and come nighttime when i train im pretty beat from the day.. could this be a reason why im not gaining? i know this cycle is mostly cutting but i planned to gain 10-12lbs and figured i woulda gained a couple already..diet is in tact.. eating lots during the day and good calories and protein.. i dono im relly confused.. first time i used prop ever.. last cycle was over a year ago.. ran 500mg sust/wk for 7 wks.. then 750 for the remaining 5.. need some advice bros thanks..

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    again im only 3 wks in but still i was told prop kicks in fast. . i expected to gain a few lbs.. at least? maybe im wrong

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    what does eating alot mean to you???

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    eq takes about 5 weeks to kick in

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    i try to consume anywheres between 3000-4000 cals per day.. along with 200-300 grams of protein. i eat small meals but eat often every 2 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by damiongage
    what does eating alot mean to you???

    Agreed, also if your working that much does your training and rest time suck? If you want the prop to hit faster shoot ED

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    still prop shoulda put some mass on by now shouldnt have it

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    yeahh. its hard to get much sleep.. like 6-7 hours a night usally.. construction work all day then gym night then straight to bed..i am shooting ED now.. 75mg prop and 500mg eq/wk

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    prop should off....post a typical day(work,meals,training,sleep)

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    You have to be patient with the EQ bro, it takes long time before it kicks in. Prop doesn't do size that much it's more about the strenght. I'd calculated my BMR again and see you have your diet in check. It's probably due to your exhausting work - try to consume as many shakes during the day as you can. It sucks when you have to work so much.

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    i had the same prob i work construction too just started to go to sleep earlier and made all the worlds of a diffrence the 2-3 extra hours, my diet was there just i was having lagging gains but when i started to make myself go to sleep earlier i started shooting up in weight

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    typical day.. wake up round 7am work for 8.. work till about 6-7 night sometimes later.
    Gym it up round 8 work out till about 9-10 depending on the time i arrive to thegym.. Come home graba light snack lights out for bed around 1130-12
    Meals are
    8am - Meso tech protein shake, multivitamin, apple, 2 egg whites
    10am - Tuna Sandwich, Bannana, 250ml milk
    12pm lunch - Chicken Sandwich, 250ml milk, can of mixed fruit, 2 tubs yogurt
    2pm - Protein bar
    4pm - 1/2 chicken sandwich
    530-6 home for quick supper. 1 cup rice, chicken breast, 1 baked potatoe
    gym
    Protein shake immediatley after training.
    througout the day drink about 4-6L water per day
    supplementing with amino acids and 20g glutamine per day

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    bro whats ur stats looks like some part might be diet

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    Training consist every body part
    on chest, back, shoulders, legs i train about 12-15 sets consisting of
    warm up
    1x12
    1x8-10
    1x4-6 for each excercise
    bis, tris 8-10 sets
    same routine as above

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    What can i do to get myself going u have any pointers at all for me?? its hard to eat good during the day with me working like a dogg all the time you know.. i get like 2 breaks so im like eating on the go all the time.. i trhough my diet was decent for the amount im working.. its ****ing hard work too.. really tired come friday from working and training all week

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    As I said before - I trully understand your position - just try to drink shakes before your meals. It's easy - go get some weightgainer and mix with milk - it really works.

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    its not a good position to be in .. sometimes i even wonder if its even worth the bother.. but i love training and i love the results.. Its just so hard come this time of year with construction.. its hardass work.. and between working and training.. i dont have alot of time left to make myself good meals let alone try to follow them during the day.. anyways im gonna buy some Nlarge.. and see how that works.. try to take it as much as i can..

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    my worst fear is coming off.. for one with me not on anything at all i dont know how often i will be able to train during the week.. and also PCT is gonna SUCK ASS when im working this much.. especially clomid.. dont even wanna think about it

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    As far as I'm concerned you'd be fine with PCT - I'd work with less intensity during and after PCT due to the lack of AAS and your catabolism when the gear is clear out of your system. ...or you're afraid of muscle loss... but that's different story.
    Last edited by baseballer19; 05-07-2004 at 12:55 AM.

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    yeah.. im not sure if i do gain anything off this cycle how much i can keep doing the work im doing.. .. this is why ive almost wondered if its worth it?

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    You have to believe dude - I know it's been a hardass to you but still at least have your diet in check as much as you can. Don't stay on caloric deficyt. Get some weightgainer and have a faith.

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    The gear doesn't do everything - it's the all factors. Don't bump up your AAS intake cause when the diet sucks everything else sucks.

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