extremely frustrated

**Ironarms** · 05-14-2004, 11:35 PM

age 22
206 lbs
13%bf
train like a bull, eat every 2 hrs...dedication, desire and determination is all there but my gear isnt.....
was doin 600-800 mg cyp and 400 mg eq, both qv products and dint gain much, did 4 bottles of the cyp, it looked real, opackaged, air tight, batch #s matched up...hologram with v slits, no dots behing though....kept think it will kick in but nevr really did...now im taking aratest 2500 750 mg a week and 400 eq..hoping this will be better......any advice??????

**trailrider38** · 05-14-2004, 11:57 PM

how many weeks were u doing test cyp?

**Ironarms** · 05-15-2004, 12:04 AM

did it for about 8-9 weeks

**houseofpain** · 05-15-2004, 12:17 AM

how bout the EQ?

**Ironarms** · 05-15-2004, 12:32 AM

stil on eq now...almost 3 months...whatu think

**big4nuthin** · 05-15-2004, 02:23 AM

I had the same results from one batch QV cyp and QV eq. Ran them both for 8 weeks and got jack **** excepts some mean pimples at the end. Now dont think i dont know my **** because I do. I have been running gear for many years and I have seen this deteriation in quality of good brands many times before. In the beginning they are really good products then they get greedy. Oh well, part of the black market blues. I buy the homemade stuff if you know what I mean. So much more work, but no bull****. Sick of the bull****. Take your losses like areal man, and move on. Its all you can really do.

**ST240** · 05-16-2004, 04:37 PM

man.... now im not so sure if i wanna get qv stuff anymore... i was gonna run qv deca 300 but since you guys are sayin all this stuff im gonna stay away