Thread: heartenlargement on steroids?
05-19-2004, 08:12 AM #1
heartenlargement on steroids?
sup fellas, i know this has been discussed before but i just wanted to bring it up again..when you are on your cycle and lets say you run 2 miles a day, play basketball regularly or whatever.. does your heart enlarge over time?? b/c your heart is a muscle too! thanx for any input on this..
05-19-2004, 08:27 AM #2
u would logically think so .. just cause its something u don't want to grow .. doesn't mean its not going to ..
like ur nuts shrinkin up! I dont want that to happen but that a side of the gear
05-19-2004, 08:31 AM #3
thanx man, i really want to know about this..so guys keep the replies coming..hey mallet answer this one if you read this! please!
05-19-2004, 10:07 AM #4
05-19-2004, 10:27 AM #5
05-19-2004, 10:34 AM #6
bump it up some moe!!
05-19-2004, 11:13 AM #7
05-19-2004, 11:52 AM #8
i take it not too many people know the answer to this or they just dont give a dammn
05-19-2004, 11:54 AM #9New Member
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im curious to so i give a ****
Last edited by §ierra_350; 05-11-2004 at 03:03 PM.
Me to come on bros that something that has been on my mind for a little while now.
05-19-2004, 11:57 AM #11Originally Posted by nonutz
05-19-2004, 12:07 PM #12
There isn't great evidence to support heart growth attributed to AAS use. Most of the stuff is circumstantial, i.e. case studies of athletes that use AAS have larger hearts than controls....HOWEVER, when the controls are other athletes, there is no real difference in heart mass. Physical exertion increases left ventricular mass.
I'll add a link that has a study on this
05-19-2004, 12:13 PM #13
Here you go, if you scroll down to risk of injecting it states heart enlargment as a possible effect. The whole heart does not enlarge escept for the left ventricle.
Steroids - The Facts
Steroids are a manufactured form of testosterone . Steroids can be taken orally or can be injected (through needles). Most people using steroids inject them. Using steroids alone will not get you that muscular look. You still have to do strict work outs and stick to a healthy diet.
In men and women testosterone is responsible for protein and red blood cell production. Red blood cells carry oxygen to your cells and repair tissues. It also increases the appearance of secondary male sex characteristics such as hair growth, deepening voice, activity of sweat glands, increased aggression and sexual behaviour.
Under normal conditions the male body produces from 2.5 to 11 mg of testosterone a day and the female body produces 0.25 mg per day. In males, testosterone production peaks during puberty and starts to decline by about age 23.
Steroids combined with a strict work out schedule are used to increase strength, muscle mass, reduce recovery time and increase the intensity of training sessions.
Some harm reduction strategies
Bodybuilders often use too much juice (street name for
steroids). What your body doesn't use, just ends up going
down the toilet. You are peeing your money away. But
more importantly, if you are using too much juice, you are
putting extra stress on your kidneys, liver and heart.
More is not better – To find the right dose for you,
start small and build up. Have your doctor monitor your
kidney and liver functions. There are no magical numbers
when it comes to the correct amount of juice. Most people
try and figure out what might work for them by asking others
how much they use.
You can't juice for life – It is important to cycle your
steroids (e.g., three months on, three months or longer off).
Risks of injecting
Abscess: an area of infection around the injection site
Cellulitis: a painful inflammation of the skin that spreads
Hitting a nerve
The injection site may become sore and irritated
Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C and HIV from contact with infected blood through needle sharing or sharing steroid vials. Consider getting vaccinated against Hepatitis B
Enlargement of the heart muscle
Possibility of physical dependence leading to withdrawal symptoms (e.g., fever, sweats)
Never share your injection equipment or vials, you could transmit HIV and Hepatitis
Possible side effects
Most of the risks involved are dependent on the dose of the steroid used. The general rule is, the higher the dose, the greater the side effects.
Acne, aggression and depression
Fluid retention, which can lead to, increased blood pressure (hypertension)
Liver damage which is mostly associated with oral preparations
Kidney damage due to the extra work that must be done to process the steroid and the extra fluid
Increased blood pressure (you might get headaches)
Decreased cardiovascular health
Stunted growth if taken during adolescence
Enlargement of heart muscle
Male side effects
Increased size of prostrate gland
Increase in male pattern baldness
Shrinkage of the testicles and decreased sperm production
Gyncomastia (growing of breasts or bitch tits)
Female side effects
Virilization (the development of male characteristics such as deepening of the voice, hair loss, increased body hair, increased clitoris size, menstrual irregularities)
Uterine atrophy (wasting away) and birth defects of children due to the high level of male hormone
Increased risk of osteoporosis (bone loss)
Outcomes of steroid use
Increased muscle mass
Increased muscle strength
May prevent injury by strengthening other muscles
Increased metabolic rates means you can eat more
Possible better body image
It is not advisable to cycle with multiple steroid types. Try one type of steroid at a time for a minimum of one month and see how your body reacts
Do not share needles or vials
Do not re-use needles, even on yourself
If you are sharing a vial, never put a syringe that has been used back in that same vial
Difference between street and prescription steroids
Substances are not monitored Often you may not be getting what you want
Substances are monitored
Concentrations not monitored i.e. preparations could be diluted or strong enough to cause an overdose
Difficult to tell whether product is a fake
Products have not been
Easy to find Harder to get a prescription
Costs more than street
The Works offers:
Information about safer injection
Testing for HIV, Hepatitis and Syphilis
Referrals to drug treatment & detox
Vaccines for Hepatitis B and flu
For more information contact us at:
Toronto Public Health
277 Victoria Street, Main Floor, Toronto
(one block from Yonge and Dundas)
All services are free and confidential.
05-19-2004, 12:17 PM #14
Working out at low rep range could cause it more the gear. Most of the probs we have with enlarged heart is from doing heavy weights at a low rep range not the gear. I'll see if I can find a study that I read awhile back on this
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