05-20-2004, 09:50 AM #1
Since the ephedra Ban: Any good fatburners left? Read this Guide
Well Bros My idea
(A little bit more expensive then buying it ready made but a lot more effective and 500 servings so the equal of 5-6 ready made containers)
I have already made
1000 Custom Made capsules of my ECY-stack Generation I (650 mg Blend)
1000 Custom Made capsules of my ECY-stack Generation II (1500 mg Blend)
Currently working on formula for Generation III
handed them all out (only have 500 left with Usnic Acid in them)
1) All people agree that they are best fatburners they have ever used!
2) Women liked the Generation II better
3) Slightly better results with Generation I among men (I think of the T4 in it)
4) Generation II was much more comfortable while "on"
5) 3 people found both of them better than Clen (better results) and one of them even better than Clen/T3 combo!
So I thought of a formula for the people that don't have cap makers (or don't feel like capping ) or very precise scales!
Most important though I thought of a mild yet very effective stack with none side-effects and more importantly which is accessible for all bros on this board (so the ingredients are all cheap and easy to be found on bulknutrition.com --> In contrast to all 3 Generations which have exotic ingredients like Levothyroxine Sodium aka T4, Sibutramine HCL aka Reductil/Meridia and the one I'm working ON now which will contain
R-ala, Bioperine, Tyramine HCL, Synephrine HCL, Octopamine HCL,
Grape Seed Extract, CoQ10, 3,5-diiodo-L-thyronine aka T2 and GET THIS
120 mg of Orlistat aka XENICAL!!!! ---> Needless to say that these are hard to obtain ingredients and sometimes a bit pricey)
So I came up with this for all you Bros to experiment with:
(Taste is I think plain so not Yuck! but best is mix it with a proteinshake or something)
Best is go to www.bulknutrition.com
and buy some fatburning agents to make them your self!
(You can leave this out if you don't like Epehdra! and just use the formula below but best is a combo of the two)
Vasopro Ephedrine HCl 25 mg (tab 3x a day)
$7 per 60 (so this will last 20 days!)
and 3 times a day this formula(all available @ bulknutrition):
200 mg Cafeine
200 mg Green Tea Extract (98% Polyfenols)
40 mg Goggulsterones (so 100% Goggulsterones not those 8% standardized)
6 mg Yohimbine HCL
200 mg Chocamine
150 mg Acetyl L-Carnitine
1200 mg L-Carnitine
600 mg DL-Phenylaline
400 mg L-Tyrosine
300 mg Taurine
900 mg Lecithin
480 mg B-50 powder
324 mg Vitamin C powder (this amount as a filler)
total: 5 grams!
make 500 servings of this formula:
To Make it ----------------------------------
Get a big Proteinpowder container and mix in it:
(shake really well!)
100 g Cafeine $4
100 g Green Tea Extract (98% Polyfenols) $14
20 g Goggulsterones $75
3 g Yohimbine HCL $10
100 g Chocamine $11
75 g Acetyl L-Carnitine $11
600 g L-Carnitine $40
300 g DL-Phenylaline $15
200 g L-Tyrosine $12
150 g Taurine $6
450 g Lecithin (so 1 lbs) $6
240 g B-50 powder (so 2 packets of 4 oz.) $18
162 g Ascorbic Acid/Vitamin C (1 lbs packets available) $9
But this is the best non illegal/********* Fatburning Solution Available!
If anybody thinks there are good commercial fatburners left (so effective, safe and not like e.g. Stacker 3 which the scent alone when opening the box will make you want to throw up )
Let's hear it!
Anybody have any good results with these new Fatburners? (so ephedra free etc?) --> Which is the best one in your opinion!
Last edited by kingofmasters; 05-20-2004 at 10:16 AM.
05-20-2004, 04:40 PM #2
in my opinion bro, if your diet and cardio are all in check, all you need is caffeine and ephedra.i get $5 bottles of ephedra at the gas station down the street, and it lasts me around 1 month.does the trick everytime too.
i'd like to try your fat burner though it looks good.
1 more thing though, do some research on usnic acid and steroids .i'm not sure if it will bring up anything but ive been studying it awhile offline, and vitamin C is proving to be counterproductive while on.
05-20-2004, 04:44 PM #3
I saw a company in new jersey that still selling ephdra tablets but they are regulated (they have to keep records).
05-20-2004, 05:38 PM #4Originally Posted by V_Xsucks
Quantity? Price? What flavor does it come in?
05-20-2004, 07:31 PM #5Originally Posted by itsallmental
UNless you go to walgreens and buy some Bronkaid Caplets. They contain 25mgs of ephedra.
05-21-2004, 05:12 AM #6Originally Posted by itsallmental
It's just that with all today's crappy supplements it's better to make something real effective yourself...
The 60 tablets of Vasopro Ephedra HCL is $7 and that's better then Bronkaid and the like (because they are intended as a medicine so they have certain additives in them e.g. Ketotifen Fumarate or such)...
(Bulknutrition is the best seeing otehr websites charge $12 or more for the same bottle)...
I'd like to see those studies about Vitamin C...
But I'm very sceptical seeing your body in an "optimal" state (meaning fatburning with Usnic Acid or Musclebuilding with steroids ) produces a whole lot of free radicals so you NEED anti-oxidants like Vitamin C (perhaps the Vitamins will bottleneck gains in your studies but I think that is a small sacrifice to make better then building up Free Radicals concentration in your body and becoming Impotent or Blind! --> Like taking DNP without any supplements over prolonged time!)
05-21-2004, 06:04 AM #7Member
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clenbeuterol = the best fat burner!
(in my opinion anyways!)
05-21-2004, 07:32 AM #8
10-07-2004, 03:33 AM #9New Member
Originally Posted by kingofmasters
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if you decide to cap, do you mix ingrediants in each pill or do you make them all seperate?
10-07-2004, 12:25 PM #10New Member
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10-07-2004, 01:21 PM #11
You put all that stuff in an empty protien jug or ziplock bag and shake/mix for like 20min. It must be even. Then pour it on your cappin machine and make your pills. Do you know how retarded hard it would be to divide each ingredient evenly into pills?
10-07-2004, 01:22 PM #12
YOU CANT BEAT vASOPRO FOR BOTH PRICE AND QUALITY
02-20-2005, 06:40 PM #13
Its still legal in Canada, in 8mg tabs only. I have a bottle right in front of me lol just order from a Canadian site...
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01-13-2013, 03:13 PM #15Originally Posted by Gav_999
01-13-2013, 03:21 PM #16
This is an 8 year old thread, let it die.
01-13-2013, 03:33 PM #17
With all due respect, ephedrine has been banned as a diet aid. It is still available as a bronchial aid....I don't know about Holland, but in many places. Before learning this I tried the others. Not much there for me, I get better results from "5-hour energy than most." The only isse is when you but ephedrine now, it comes in 8mg tabs rather than in 25 mg tabs as they were before the "ban". I get past this by taking three 8mg tabs. I suspect that I am getting 97% of the effect! Here is what I use (when I use it):
200 mg caffine
Works like a charm and you will get a couple extra pumps out of each set at the gym.
01-13-2013, 04:29 PM #18
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