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    steroids dont work 4 me

    is it possible that steroids dont work on everyone. im on my second cycle and i get strong but rarely put on any size. I follow a great diet and i got the cycle from researching this site and talking to you guys. Ive been doing high eq, enat, and dbol . im 9 weeks into cyle and only gained 10 lbs and it is mostly in my stomach.

    i just wanted to give you background info, but my question is do as not work for everyone? thanks guys, your help is always great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickrizz
    is it possible that steroids dont work on everyone. im on my second cycle and i get strong but rarely put on any size. I follow a great diet and i got the cycle from researching this site and talking to you guys. Ive been doing high eq, enat, and dbol . im 9 weeks into cyle and only gained 10 lbs and it is mostly in my stomach.

    i just wanted to give you background info, but my question is do as not work for everyone? thanks guys, your help is always great.
    maybe you just got some bunk gear. exactly what were you eating day to day??? an how were you training? Sleeping??

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    If you're not gaining bodyweight then you're not eating enuf calories bro...

    Simple...

    Because trust me Steroids are amazing once you know what you are doing...

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    diet:
    8am: 6 eggs, 2 slices toast, grapefruit
    10am: myoplex w/ banana
    12pm: chicken breast w/rice
    2pm: myoplex w/ fruit
    4pm: can tuna (60g protein) w/ hotsauce and bread
    7pm: steak and potatoes
    10pm: myoplex w/ fruit or cereal

    i sleep 8-9 hrs a night

    i workout 3 on 1 off (just started this 2 weeks ago)

    cycle:
    eq 400mg wks 1-10
    enat 500mg wks 1-10
    dbol 30mg wks 4-9
    pct after

    i am now in week 7 and strength is through roof, but weight gain not impressive. and measurements only in chest/back, arms still tiny

    sorry for the novel guys your help is great
    thanks for the help guys i appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buff87
    Because trust me Steroids are amazing once you know what you are doing...

    aint that the truth!!

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    and the stuff is all QV, i know it is real, sealed, and good to go.

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    i wish i gained 20 lbs, the strength is nice, but im not training to be a powerlifter, i want the size, you think carbs is more important to protein, because i eat more protein than carbs by a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickrizz
    i wish i gained 20 lbs, the strength is nice, but im not training to be a powerlifter, i want the size, you think carbs is more important to protein, because i eat more protein than carbs by a lot.
    Your diet needs some serious work. Post it in the Diet Forum and the bros there will critique it.

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    thanks im going to do that right now

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    i put my diet on the top of the page, i thought it was ok, but daman1 said it needed a critique and you guys know more than me so feel free to rip it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickrizz
    i put my diet on the top of the page, i thought it was ok, but daman1 said it needed a critique and you guys know more than me so feel free to rip it up.
    i just critiqued it.

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    I'm not a fan of QV gear, although many guys here will rebute my arguments against QV, I still think it is underdosed and easily faked. There could also be an issue with weight gain if your body doesnt retain much water. Keep in mind a portion of the weight you will gain will come from water weight. If you are like me and your body holds little water from the above drugs then your overall numbers will be down slightly. I can not run nolva/ldex at all and retain only 1lb of H2O or so. Try to eat something like 80g C and 50g P for the first 5 meals of the day and tell me you dont put on some weight. Its called bulking for a reason and the extra carbs arent going to hurt you any. Just make sure you arent eating a large amount of fat in conjunction.

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    dont get me wrong i know if i eat 10000 cals a day i will definately grow. but with the diet i was eating and the stuff i was taking, i thought i would be growing easily and quickly, how about the as, are they looking ok? (test, eq, dbol )

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickrizz
    dont get me wrong i know if i eat 10000 cals a day i will definately grow. but with the diet i was eating and the stuff i was taking, i thought i would be growing easily and quickly, how about the as, are they looking ok? (test, eq, dbol)
    The macronutrient suggestion I gave you will only add up to be about 3500kcal. That is more than maintenance however fewer than many of the diets others use on this board.
    I will say it again. I dont like QV at all. I would advise you to use a different manufacturer the next time around. Also keep in mind that EQ isnt going to add larges slabs of beef to your frame. It is great for hunger and vascularity, but not the best bulker. Keep in mind some people react differently to AAS. I for one dont respond all that well to dbol . Sure i may gain 6lbs but compared to others that isnt much. Remember the game of body building isnt a sprint its more like a cross country meet. Concentrate on making slow gains. It's better than none at all.

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    Listen to these bro's your diet is lacking bro, once you get that squared away you will be growing like a mad man

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    i think u should replace those mrp shakes with real food, up your carbs to a 2;1 carb to protein ratio. it might work out for ya. good luck bro.

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    I'm not putting on a lot of weight either, but I am strong as hell. I think everyone reacts to certain **** differently. I, for one, will not be using Sust again. Next time I am going to Fina and maybe Anavar

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    is the gear underdosed?

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    i gained 28 lbs off my first cycle cuzz my diet and training were so in tact, i did everything perfectly.its all in the diet and training.cant have 1 without the other.if yuor not growing then you simply just need to add alot more calories.
    on some days i was consuming upwards to around 5000 calories a day.that was hard for me b/c that pre workout stack of caffeine and ephedra put my appetite in the drain.just stuff your face man.......

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    You're getting @ 250gs of protein a day.( depending on the size of your steak and chicken).
    You said you're eating less carbs than that.
    SO at most your daily intale is 2000 calories maxx.
    Unless you only weigh 120 lbs there is no way that is enough calories on cycle.
    Running eq you must be hungry all the time.
    Start eatin!!!

    Yes, steriods work for everyone, even (surprisingly enough), aids patients and recovering hospital patients.

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    Dude,

    I have taken QV stuff during my last two cycles and was not impressed. I do not think I will use it again. When are started homemade FINA....it was a whole different story...huge strength gains and in just 5 weeks I made lots of size gains. It's also true about the diet....EAT...alot...just make it good stuff.

    Try something else besides QV next time

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    Eat my brother , eat. And when you think you're full , burp and eat some more.

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    yea bro you definatly need way more calories then what you posted in one day.....4000-6000 cals a day....just keep packin the food down your throat....meat... meat...and more meat....I LOVE BEEF!!...u should learn too as well...JMO

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    Take this :
    diet:
    8am: 6 eggs, 2 slices toast, grapefruit
    10am: myoplex w/ banana
    12pm: chicken breast w/rice
    2pm: myoplex w/ fruit
    4pm: can tuna (60g protein) w/ hotsauce and bread
    7pm: steak and potatoes
    10pm: myoplex w/ fruit or cereal
    times it by 2, and then add a protein shake (no carbs) and 2 cups of low fat cottage cheese right before bed. You'll be gold then. Huge gains. I wasn't as strict as some on here and put on a good 20 lbs. on 8 weeks of sust and 4 weeks of Winn on the end. It's all in the diet becuase what you're taking should give you much more size than what I got if the diet and training are in line.

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    Dude u r not taking in enough calories period! Oh ya QV is good stuff by far. Its not the juice its your eating! Or it could be your intensity with your training!
    Last edited by beeffreak6; 05-23-2004 at 09:09 PM.

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    Shakes are not food.
    Up your food intake by at least 50%.
    I dont know what your training is like but stick to basic compound movements...and go freakin heavy! Keep a journal and strive to steadilly increase.

    I have said time and time again...eating is the hardest part of BBing.

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    must be the intensity with your training. i have qv gear and during my whole cycle i've been taking in 2000-2500 calories hardly any carbs on off days,and mostly protien shakes. i only take 200-250 grams of protien per day.that's just me though,if i take in more calories i get fat.

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    Bunk gear, poor diet, bad training scheulde, limited sleep..so many factors here...but if you were "on" you would know!

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    thanks guys im going to put all this info together today and redo the whole diet. the main reason i was taking the myoplex was because it is so hard to eat all day while working (im not suppose to bring food to my desk at the office lol).
    suprisingly with the eq im not hungry at all. i rarely get hungry i always have to force myself. i was thinking of using the b12 injections. what do you guys think?

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    Dude,

    Since I started on AS The food has been the hardest part of it all. The guys on here have really gotten on my case about my diet. But I think it is something that you can slowly build on. I am on my second cycle now and the food isn't as hard to handle as during the first cycle. I got a partner who gets on my case about eating and eating...that is tougher than the eating itself. I always feel concsious of my food and he make me feel weird.

    But anyway, just do your best and eat as much as you can. This is life and I say you just learn by your mistakes and move forward. So if you didn't eat enough during this cycle and only made small gains...so what. Just do better the next time and eventually it will all come together.

    Bri

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    thanks bri, yea i was pretty upset i spend all this $$ on the stuff and my diet was so way off. but we learn from our mistakes i guess.

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    That is another thing....you need to have lots of $$ for the food too! Don't forget to budget that out also when planning a cycle.

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    i know the money for food has been killing me

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