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    Bouncer1982 is offline Associate Member
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    Exclamation 21yr old begginer needs help on juice and diet

    Hi Guys, Look I need some help on what juice is the best for shredding fat and putting on quality muscle, As i'm in Australia alot of the gear you can get i can't. I can get clenbuterol but not as a tablet form but as a veterinary powder for horses to treat stable dust, as well i can get prop, deca , stanazolol (winny), tribolin 75, Drive and a few others i can't remember of the top of my head. what would be the best course to take as a first time user to strip body fat. I'm fairly large in size 6'2" and 20% BF some diet tips would also be gratfully appreiciated.

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    geardup is offline Associate Member
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    prop winny would be a good cutting cycle

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    Everything you need to know about dieting is in the diet section on this site. I would suggest dropping your bf closer to 15% before doing a cycle. You should figure out what diet your body needs before adding steroids into the mix.

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    for a first time user with 20% body fat, I suggest diet and cardio to drop down to at least 12% body fat. No business doing a cycle with such a high bf, and being a first time user does not help. Looks like you are looking for a quick fix, well let me be the first to tell you bro, there is no quick fix. Do it right, and you will thank all of us later.

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    Bouncer1982 is offline Associate Member
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    Thanks for the Info guys

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    J*U*icEd is offline Anabolic Member
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    steroids is not a good way to get cut....you can do that very easily naturally.....all it takes is a little dedication and dieting...believe me you can do it yourself...and as somebody mentioned i would drop some body fat before saucin it up...but if your really set on juicin...i would go with prop and tren 75....but i suggest waiting alittle bit....JMO

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    I'd email Swolecat see if he can help you out on the diet. As for the gear, when you ready look into a prop/tren combo and maybe some clen . For now just use an ECA stack and run, run, run!

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