Cycle Advise

[Tadpole]

I am new to the board and would appreciate all the help/advice I can get.
I am 27 years old with about five Cycles under my belt over the past seven years. (most of my cycles Tes and Decca) I'm 5'9" and 200lbs with 10% B.F.
I am proposing the following cycle:

1-12, 500mg EQ a week
1-8, 500mg Sus a week

I was thinking of running the EQ longer to solidify my gains a little better and then run my PCT. Is this a good idea? My PCT would look like this:

1-30, .25 L-Dex, 100 Clomid and 20 Nolva. With B-6 and Tribulus

If this is an acceptable cycle when should I start the PCT?
I appreciate the help/advise

[simplyjakked]

i would run your eq the same lenghth of time but run the sus three weeks longer than the eq.

[SportsMedVIP]

i would run your eq the same lenghth of time but run the sus three weeks longer than the eq.

That seems like it would make since but with sust you need to wait 3 weeks to PCT. That would mean 6 weeks between stopping EQ and PCT. It would probably work but I think some thing like this might be better.
Sust weeks 1-13
EQ weeks 1-12
Nolva 10mg ED all throughout.
You PCT plan
I think with how long acting sust is you could be safe running them both 12 weeks but I'm not sure so I don't want to say that. 1 week longer than the EQ is plenty though. No need to go longer except that you'll get more results from the sust if you go 14-16 weeks. In that case just run your EQ 1 week shorter and you'll be all set. Considering this is your 5th cycle that might be a good idea. JMHO though.

[Micromonster]

Do a quick search on Sustanon , it appears that it is more a pain in the a$$ then what it is worth. Personally I would run a single test ester (cyp/enanth) and front load with Prop. Also run the test 2-3 weeks longer than the EQ. Good luck.

[usualsuspect]

Do a quick search on Sustanon, it appears that it is more a pain in the a$$ then what it is worth. Personally I would run a single test ester (cyp/enanth) and front load with Prop. Also run the test 2-3 weeks longer than the EQ. Good luck.

I'd do the same. single ester test and and frontload with prop.
Something like so:

Test Prop Wks 1-4 75mgs ed
Test-Eth Wks 1-13 500mgs
EQ Wks 1-12 500mgs

Start clomid 2 weeks following last shot of Test-Eth.

Best of luck,
~US~

[SportsMedVIP]

With B-6 and Tribulus

The B-6 isn't necessary either. Not that it would hurt but it's for deca related gyno primarily. I'm sure you used it before for PCT but you wouldn't need it with this one.

[Tadpole]

Wow great info. I wanted to try Sus But to much $$$ to run for 13-14 weeks. Anyone ever front load with Sus and switch to a single ester tes after.

[SportsMedVIP]

Wow great info. I wanted to try Sus But to much $$$ to run for 13-14 weeks. Anyone ever front load with Sus and switch to a single ester tes after four weeks.

Wouldn't be worth it. Not enough Prop to frontload. If you ccould get your hands on some test prop then you could frontload with that and then go to sustanon . Not sure the best way to do that though. Probably just as expensive. If sust is your only option than try just 1-11 weeks of sust and 1-10 weeks of EQ. That's a little less but enough to still get good results. Again, JMO.

[Tadpole]

I'm set on the EQ for 12 weeks at 500 feel thats a great amount for me and would not want to run it for less than 12 weeks. So sounds like I need to re-think my tes choice.

[SportsMedVIP]

I'm set on the EQ for 12 weeks at 500 feel thats a great amount or me and would not want to run it for less than 12 weeks. So sounds like I need to re-think my tes choice.

Yeah bro, pick up some Test Enanthate . Or Propionate if you don't mind shooting ED. That would be a good combo with EQ. Either would be good though.

[Tadpole]

Would like to avoid the ED, still thinking about the Sus.... or may be Tes Cyp.
some people seem to think its ok to do a EQ only cycle. So would Sus for 8 week and EQ for 12 weeks really be that bad???
It's only four more weeks.

Sorry so many question.

[SportsMedVIP]

Would like to avoid the ED, still thinking about the Sus.... or may be Tes Cyp.
some people seem to think its ok to do a EQ only cycle. So would Sus for 8 week and EQ for 12 weeks really be that bad it's only for more weeks????

Sorry so many question.

You're supposed to run your test longer than your EQ. You'd have to wait atleast 6 weeks to start PCT from your last test dosage so you'd have about 3 weeks in there (after sust completely cleared) where estrogen would be your prodominate hormone. That's no good. I wouldn't want that atleast. JMO though.

[Tadpole]

Just a thought would HCG after the Sus by me enough time to get to my pct.

[Tadpole]

Any new advice on this cycle?

[TheMudMan]

I would use Enan a single estered test unless you will be injecting the SUS at least EOD

1 - 13 Enan 500mg/wk
1 - 12 EQ 500mg/wk
1 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED

Start PCT 2 weeks after your last Enan injection
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

[Tadpole]

Thanks allot MudMan....
You think I should jump start this with anything or good as is?
I'm looking for a fair amount of lean mass (last cycle for a while)
And I was looking at doing the SUS every 3rd day.

[TheMudMan]

If you can get prop then do this:

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 500mg/wk
1 - 12 EQ 500mg/wk
14 - 15 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after your last Prop injection
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
1 - 15 Nolva 10mg ED

[Tadpole]

I think that's what I was looking for thanks again MudMan.

[TheMudMan]

I think that's what I was looking for thanks again MudMan.

No problem