I know everyone thinks that single esther is better but i got some sustanon for free and the winny was not a bad price. I am also going to run M1T for the first four weeks. I have a friend on M1T at 20mgs a day and he is on his third week with a 25 lb increase on bench and at least 50 on squat. He has also gained a good 9lbs and lost bodyfat. I plan on running the winny through the end.