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  1. 06-01-2004, 01:08 PM #1
    UnNaturalBuff
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    first cycle advice

    k bros, I'm 22 5'10'', 195, 13%bf, good 3yrs liftin. Hopin to gain around 30#'s and keeps as much as possible afterwards.

    Cycle-15wk:
    wk 1-10 Test enanth 500mg/wk
    wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
    wk 7-12 winnie 50mg/ed
    wk 1-15 nolva 10mg/eod (only have 600mgs of this any advice here?)
    wk 13-15 clomid treat 300mgs working down to 50mgs taken every day
    wk 1-15 200mgs b6/ed
    also planing to take b12shots (thinking around 1/2cc mixed in with every shot? any advice here too?)

    well tear away
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  2. 06-01-2004, 01:11 PM #2
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    looks good mayberun the deca one week shorter
    good luck bro
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  3. 06-01-2004, 01:15 PM #3
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    i would drop the winny for your first cycle, and b-12 500 mcg or 1/2 cc ed, run the deca 8 weeks, and nolva wont help with deca gyno, b 6 is fine, start clomid 2 weeks after your last test e shot
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  4. 06-01-2004, 01:19 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBuff
    k bros, I'm 22 5'10'', 195, 13%bf, good 3yrs liftin. Hopin to gain around 30#'s and keeps as much as possible afterwards.

    Cycle-15wk:
    wk 1-10 Test enanth 500mg/wk
    wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
    wk 7-12 winnie 50mg/ed
    wk 1-15 nolva 10mg/eod (only have 600mgs of this any advice here?)
    wk 13-15 clomid treat 300mgs working down to 50mgs taken every day
    wk 1-15 200mgs b6/ed
    also planing to take b12shots (thinking around 1/2cc mixed in with every shot? any advice here too?)

    well tear away
    Add 1 more week on you test,and go wk 8-13 on winny,and pct timing will match up.
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  5. 06-01-2004, 01:20 PM #5
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    Bro are u prone to gyno if so then the nolva would be a good idea if not just have it on hand you may not have to use it
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  6. 06-01-2004, 01:31 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    Add 1 more week on you test,and go wk 8-13 on winny,and pct timing will match up.
    I agree with dabull but for a first cycle would recommend less gear, drop the winny...
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  7. 06-01-2004, 02:13 PM #7
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    wouldn't I put on alot more waterweight without the winnie?
    but if I do drop the winny would it be good to use test Cypionate instead? same doses
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  8. 06-01-2004, 02:17 PM #8
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    first cycle bro start nice and easy rome wasnt built in a day work your way up the rope that is what i have learned

    good luck
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  9. 06-01-2004, 02:54 PM #9
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    any more advice on cutting the winny? I'm mainly lookin for the nice lean muscle, not the waterweight
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  10. 06-01-2004, 03:12 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBuff
    any more advice on cutting the winny? I'm mainly lookin for the nice lean muscle, not the waterweight
    Nolva and L-dex will help the retention. You will also need to use vit B-6 at 200mg ED thriought cycle and PCT for deca gyno.
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