Is there any juice you can do that wont gyno out on yah?

**Dally** · 06-01-2004, 08:46 PM

ANY kind .. that wont gyno up on ya.. I mean I know about anti e's and whatnot ... but whats the "safeest" for no man tits? would ya say?

I dont fricken know everything so....

later

**damiongage** · 06-01-2004, 08:50 PM

the problem lies in the fact that all cycles should include test......and test aromitizes.....there are steroids that do not aromitize....but i would not run them without test

**Dally** · 06-01-2004, 08:52 PM

like which ones man... which of these bastards dont do it... and I'll fricken train like a ludicris bastard!

I dont need test... I need shat that dont aromatise.

THANKS MAN> ur quite the helper for me tonight

**Lozgod** · 06-01-2004, 08:55 PM

Anavar , Tren won't give you man tits but the sides without test are worse, HGH, and Winny is all I can think of off the top of my head.

**the dent depot** · 06-01-2004, 08:59 PM

I would try that new stuff...its cheap too......its called:

grammar enanthate

I think it would do you wonders.....

D

**damiongage** · 06-01-2004, 09:01 PM

tren does not aromitize so your chances are pretty low....i am by no means an expert on this subject so i will not pretend to be........i will bump this for you.....mabye someone else has some expertise on this subject

**Dally** · 06-01-2004, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by the dent depot

I would try that new stuff...its cheap too......its called:

grammar enanthate

I think it would do you wonders.....

D

nice, thanks.

What sorts of gains are expected off a normal winny cycle?

thanks

**Lozgod** · 06-01-2004, 09:03 PM

Maybe you just aren't Steroid -Ready. Try Creatine and L-Glutamine. Maybe some NO2. I would say pro-hormones but they can cause Gyno too.

**the dent depot** · 06-01-2004, 09:05 PM

While I dont share an appreciation for your vernacular, I think I know what youre asking.

Id say to run Test Prop 1cc a day (maybe eod) for 8 weeks....anti-e's of course and clomid for PCT.

Because the TP is such a fast acting ester, if you start to get symptoms of gyno you can stop right away...and basically halt the gyno.

D

**Dally** · 06-01-2004, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Lozgod

Maybe you just aren't Steroid-Ready. Try Creatine and L-Glutamine. Maybe some NO2. I would say pro-hormones but they can cause Gyno too.

Well, when is steriod ready?

Is lifting weights for 13 years long enough?I would think so, putting on close to 90 pounds in all that time, Is being to able to press 385 lbs flat bench long enough, or 3 plates a side on the smith press military, LONG ENOUGH?

Because I sure as hell hope it is.... considering that I havn't grown or lost a inch in years.

thanks dudes.

and creatine and all that other junk is a waste of cash... WASTE

**Lozgod** · 06-01-2004, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dally

eh.... when is steriod ready ? huh?

is lifting weights for 13 years long enough? is being able 385 lbs flat bench long enought ... or 3 plates a side on the smith press military ... LONG ENOUGH?

dam

When you are ready to take them and not worry about gyno. If you use the proper anti-E's then gyno shouldn't be a problem. If you are gonna take the milder non-gyno AAS's then your gains are gonna be minimal, and I mean minimal.

**the dent depot** · 06-01-2004, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dally

eh.... when is steriod ready ? huh?

is lifting weights for 13 years long enough? is being able 385 lbs flat bench long enought ... or 3 plates a side on the smith press military ... LONG ENOUGH?

dam

Those are bold claims man!

D

**damiongage** · 06-01-2004, 09:15 PM

now now children...play nice

**Dally** · 06-01-2004, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by the dent depot

Those are bold claims man!

D

are they?

to me .. no .. there not.. and considering that I have been throwing that around for over 5 years .. and not getting anywhere else... I wanna juice it... why the hell not?

**Lozgod** · 06-01-2004, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Dally

are they?

to me .. no .. there not.. and considering that I have been throwing that around for over 5 years .. and not getting anywhere else... I wanna juice it... why the hell not?

Well then do the Test if you want to juice. Make up your mind.

Get some Nolvadex take 10mg a day, and to be extra safe get some L-Dex.

**Dally** · 06-01-2004, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Lozgod

Well then do the Test if you want to juice. Make up your mind.

Get some Nolvadex take 10mg a day, and to be extra safe get some L-Dex.

thanks man.

I have both already, I was just wonderin if I should run the L-dex at a higher dose or up the nolvadex at a higher dose, just in case.

Thanks for your time fellas, sorry if I came off like a cranky prik .. but I got this A hole at work here that set me off.

SORRY!

**sooner45** · 06-01-2004, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dally

Well, when is steriod ready?

Is lifting weights for 13 years long enough?I would think so, putting on close to 90 pounds in all that time, Is being to able to press 385 lbs flat bench long enough, or 3 plates a side on the smith press military, LONG ENOUGH?

Because I sure as hell hope it is.... considering that I havn't grown or lost a inch in years.

thanks dudes.

and creatine and all that other junk is a waste of cash... WASTE

How much you can lift doesnt mean JACK **** as far as if your ready or not. The fact that you asked that comes off as if your not ready. Sounds like you need to use the search button a little b4 you go injecting yourself with something you dont know about. Theres nothing wrong with asking newbie questions, we all asked them at one time or another too, but just because you lift 500 pounds of whatever and think your ready, tells me exactly the opposite, your not ready! We're here to help you bro! Leave the attitude at the door! GL!!!

**ColdSore** · 06-01-2004, 09:28 PM

i would say "steroid ready" is when you learn that you need test in EVERY cycle...NO exceptions...until this i, nor many others will advocate your use...i know youlll be heart broken, but when your htpa is shut down and your dick wont get hard...then when you try to recover and your natty test doesnt come back to normal levels for 6 months and you loose all gains and then some...i will glady except your apology for bing such a stubborn idiot...

**damiongage** · 06-01-2004, 09:33 PM

I agree he needs test.......but he is a liitle gun shy, do to the fact he already had gyno.......he was just trying to figure out if there was a way to completly avoid it..

good luck bro, let me know if you need help

**Dally** · 06-01-2004, 09:37 PM

Marvellous... the one board I actually to go on.

Yah, I can see why you guys think that is a retarded question. But, considering that I have 1 hundred some odd posts and there are people in this thread with over a thousand. I will assume that they know what the hell your talking about. I on the other hand do not, why, is it the lack of the seach button usage, no/maybe.
Its the lack of questions due to the disrespect of being flamed by people who answer the same dumb questions like I just did day in and out.

One question though, when you guys came on this board before you hit one hundred posts, were you correcting people at that time too?

NO RUDENESS OR OUT OF LINENESS was meant BY ANY MEANS from me.... if it was taken that way, I apologize ... again.

what a day.

**chicamahomico** · 06-01-2004, 09:39 PM

I am not one of these 'test only' people. Don't let anyone tell you that it is 100% necessary for every person to include test in every cycle. Many of these people are simply regurgitating advice they have heard here and do not speak from personal experience. Waht drugs you take depend on your goals and the risks you are willing to accept.

**damiongage** · 06-01-2004, 09:44 PM

I didn't think your original question was stupid. Or give any impression that you are not ready..............but you do need the test...this is my belief..but I know people with outstanding body's that will disagree with that

**zx7racing** · 06-01-2004, 09:55 PM

i have to admit- this made me laugh out loud...

Originally Posted by the dent depot

I would try that new stuff...its cheap too......its called:

grammar enanthate

I think it would do you wonders.....

D

**dragon cycle** · 06-02-2004, 07:51 PM

there are alots of aas u can run like (masteron )
primobolan ,parabolan ,hgh,Trenbolone Acetate and the list goes on it depens on how much money u have to spend and my money will go on masteron ppl say they don't make it any more but anther company makes it now and it jus as good as the orig. and parabolan got to love that ****