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    First cycle: B6 with DECA

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    6'0, Age 38, 215, 15% BF

    My first cylcle is planned as...........
    wk 1-4 dbol 40mg
    wk 1-10 sust 500mg a week (e3d)
    wk 1-10 deca 300mg
    wk 1-13 nolva 10mg
    wk 13-16 PCT - nolva 20mg
    wk 13-16 PCT - clomid 300/100/50

    Do I need B6 @ 200mg's because of the DECA?

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    for a first cycle i would drop the sust and get a longer ester, it needs to be shot atleast eod for maximum benifits. and 3 compounds for a first one is not wise imo. run your test 1 week longer than the deca (assuming you use test e) this will help with the negative shutdown effects of deca. b6 is cheap, i would run it if i where doing deca.

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    Try week 1-12 test e 500mg/week for a first cycle. That will give you good gains.

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    sust is okay if you only have these gears on hand...
    although test-e is the preferred first cycle because of the ester properties and the lesser side effect for first time users...

    like others say, do a simple test-e 500mg cycle without the stack and you should see great gains... however, IMO, test-e and deca should be fine for the first time use as well... it's up to you if you want to see how much gain you can get just on the test itself... i often wonder about it since my first cycle had a deca stack...

    If you don't have test-e... Sust is fine for the first cycle... 4 types of ester properties... I'd do the injection EOD instead of twice as week...

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    shiat... forgot to answer your requestion:

    B6 @ 100mg is cool to take daily... bump it up to 200-300mg if you've noticed signs of higher progesterone buildup or gyno...

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefydragon
    shiat... forgot to answer your requestion:

    B6 @ 100mg is cool to take daily... bump it up to 200-300mg if you've noticed signs of higher progesterone buildup or gyno...
    actually bro..200mgs Ed will keep prolactin levels in check.You bump it to 600mgs Ed if you have prolactin issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    actually bro..200mgs Ed will keep prolactin levels in check.You bump it to 600mgs Ed if you have prolactin issues.
    man, how easy i forget about the dosage...
    DB - I think you were the man who originally taught me this... BAD STUDENT, BAD STUDENT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefydragon
    man, how easy i forget about the dosage...
    DB - I think you were the man who originally taught me this... BAD STUDENT, BAD STUDENT!

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