Methyl-1-TestosteronE (17alpha methyl-17beta-hydroxy-androst-1-ene-3-one)

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06-03-2004, 08:23 AM
LOGANXXX

Methyl-1-TestosteronE (17alpha methyl-17beta-hydroxy-androst-1-ene-3-one)

Hi Bro's,

This is new around here and never heard about it, i hope you can give more input....
Is it a Pro-hormone or a steroid? Is it worth?
How is the apropiate way to stack it? Use it for Kick start? :yellowcon :yellowcon

Thanks for the help
06-03-2004, 08:39 AM
nsa

http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=100595

It says ph in the thread, but its a steroid.
06-03-2004, 08:39 AM
hung-solo

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOGANXXX

Hi Bro's,

This is new around here and never heard about it, i hope you can give more input....
Is it a Pro-hormone or a steroid? Is it worth?
How is the apropiate way to stack it? Use it for Kick start? :yellowcon :yellowcon

Thanks for the help

curious my self so BUUUMP!!
06-03-2004, 08:46 AM
nsa

IM planning on using it for a kickstarter, but you need to have some active test in your system while on m1t, so it would be good to use prop and m1t to kickstart.
06-03-2004, 10:21 AM
righton

Somebodys got to do a controlled test where as 2 ppl take 10cc cyp and 10cc m1t(or if its only an oral...halo or whatever) and put this debate to rest without the manufacturer claims. For christ sakes...food is a steroid!!
06-03-2004, 11:55 AM
LOGANXXX

any experience? bump...
06-03-2004, 01:35 PM
nsa

10 cc's of m1t is way too much.
06-03-2004, 01:36 PM
jmp51483

Would it be worth taking M1T at the end of a test E cycle? I got 3 weeks left and I am kind of curious before I start my PCT.
06-03-2004, 01:39 PM
nsa

it will help somewhat, but its usually used as a kickstarter or a 4 week cycle with an active test.
06-03-2004, 01:43 PM
SportsMedVIP

Could a MOD in the know please throw up an answer to wether they are the real thing like PPL or not, or PM it if needed. I'm just as curious as the rest.
06-03-2004, 01:43 PM
jmp51483

yea I was just looking for that little extra boost at the end of my cycle :)

I'm Gonna throw it in just to see if it works... Ill just stop the last day of my Test Shot and start pct 2 weeks after..

I'll keep everyone updated.
06-03-2004, 01:49 PM
Lozgod

I used it as a cycle when I wanted to see if the pro-hormones were garbage or not. I gained about 15 pounds, however I had no PCT and lost it all pretty much so it does work. It is a steroid by chemical definition but a pro-hormone by legal definition. It won't be long before it is banned.
06-03-2004, 01:59 PM
nsa

You should try and run it til the day before you start pct.
06-03-2004, 02:01 PM
SportsMedVIP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozgod

I used it as a cycle when I wanted to see if the pro-hormones were garbage or not. I gained about 15 pounds, however I had no PCT and lost it all pretty much so it does work. It is a steroid by chemical definition but a pro-hormone by legal definition. It won't be long before it is banned.

So what is it comparable to then? Does it use an ester? It sounds like you guys are saying to run it like prop. What is it? Anymore details? Sounds like it did something for Loz that's for sure.
06-03-2004, 02:08 PM
jmp51483

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsa

You should try and run it til the day before you start pct.

Ok Nsa,

I'll do that... I'll let you guys know if I gain anymore.. I seem to be holding steady at 228 right now..
06-03-2004, 02:14 PM
jmp51483

Hey Nsa,

Do you think this is strong enough not to take during Time Off of a cycle? Or would it be alright to take this during off time until you start your next cycle? Just a thought I was throwing around.
06-03-2004, 02:20 PM
nsa

It is too strong to take during time off, It suppresses your hpta alot.
06-03-2004, 02:21 PM
Lozgod

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmp51483

Hey Nsa,

Do you think this is strong enough not to take during Time Off of a cycle? Or would it be alright to take this during off time until you start your next cycle? Just a thought I was throwing around.

I think what you asking is, is it ok to take in between cycles, and I would say no. I had typical AAS sides. The worst one was pimples, I mean I thought I was going through puberty again.
06-03-2004, 02:23 PM
Lozgod

Quote:

Originally Posted by ECoastVIP

So what is it comparable to then? Does it use an ester? It sounds like you guys are saying to run it like prop. What is it? Anymore details? Sounds like it did something for Loz that's for sure.

I took it ED. Orally, if I did it again, which I won't but if I did I would go topically I guess. I'd rather just use Dbol, Test, and Deca or EQ. Same sides, better results.
06-03-2004, 02:24 PM
jmp51483

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozgod

I think what you asking is, is it ok to take in between cycles, and I would say no. I had typical AAS sides. The worst one was pimples, I mean I thought I was going through puberty again.

Lol, sorry if that question looked screwed up :) I am at work trying to look on the net lol. Im really not worried about the sides to be honest more worried about how bad it effects HPTA levels and whatnot. I'll just hold off for now I guess.
06-03-2004, 02:25 PM
Lozgod

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmp51483

Lol, sorry if that question looked screwed up :) I am at work trying to look on the net lol. Im really not worried about the sides to be honest more worried about how bad it effects HPTA levels and whatnot. I'll just hold off for now I guess.

Consider it a steroid. Thats what it is. Legal or not it is a steroid.
06-03-2004, 02:25 PM
SportsMedVIP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozgod

I took it ED. Orally, if I did it again, which I won't but if I did I would go topically I guess. I'd rather just use Dbol, Test, and Deca or EQ. Same sides, better results.

Ok, that gives me a better idea. I'm not really too interested in trying it unless it's a PPL type deal, just curious. I've played the prohormone game before. Useless unless you're 60 years old and lucky enough to have a good conversion rate.
06-03-2004, 02:26 PM
Lozgod

Quote:

Originally Posted by ECoastVIP

Ok, that gives me a better idea. I'm not really too interested in trying it unless it's a PPL type deal, just curious. I've played the prohormone game before. Useless unless you're 60 years old and lucky enough to have a good conversion rate.

PPL has the best pro-hormones IMO. :wg:
06-03-2004, 02:28 PM
SportsMedVIP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lozgod

PPL has the best pro-hormones IMO. :wg:

Yes sir :lift: :roflol:
06-03-2004, 02:30 PM
jmp51483

Quote:

Originally Posted by ECoastVIP

Yes sir :lift: :roflol:

Firm believers eh???

I have heard too many mixed stories about them... Afraid to take the plunge.. So they're "hormones" are supernatural eh? :wg:
06-03-2004, 02:32 PM
nsa

The biggest problem is the hpta suppresion.
06-03-2004, 02:34 PM
jmp51483

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsa

The biggest problem is the hpta suppresion.

Well if thats the case would it be smart to take it at the end of a cycle? I guess it would be okay since I am basically already messing with HPTA... PCT should bring that back up..

I think I just answered my own question :cool:
06-03-2004, 02:35 PM
nsa

Yeah, its fine during a cycle, your hpta is pretty suppressed anyways, and yes pct will get it back to normal.
06-03-2004, 02:38 PM
SportsMedVIP

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmp51483

Firm believers eh???

I have heard too many mixed stories about them... Afraid to take the plunge.. So they're "hormones" are supernatural eh? :wg:

I can vouch for the anti-e's via experience but the rest I trust the MOD's on. Just to clear that up.
06-03-2004, 08:33 PM
LOGANXXX

I'm searching myself a lot about it....nsa, would 15mg a day enought for a first timer with m1t?
06-03-2004, 08:35 PM
LOGANXXX

And other thing....you mentioned the sides are the same as dball's and anadrol's? Is that true? I supose it does not convert into estrogen...
06-04-2004, 08:15 AM
jmp51483

IF M1t isn't actually a pro-hormone then it doesn't need a converting substance like 4ad correct? Or am I totally wrong on this?
06-04-2004, 09:44 AM
Powrlftr

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmp51483

IF M1t isn't actually a pro-hormone then it doesn't need a converting substance like 4ad correct? Or am I totally wrong on this?

You are right, it is a bona fide AAS, it has the same structure as methyltestosterone except the double bond is in the 1-position instead of the 4. I read the the original paper where it was first synthesized back in 1962 or so, but it was never marketed and it just forgotten about until PH's became popular. M1t is about half as effective as 1-test, but there is a way to regain the potency by altering the 3-keto group. 1-test was 2x as effective as TP.
06-04-2004, 10:51 AM
jmp51483

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powrlftr

You are right, it is a bona fide AAS, it has the same structure as methyltestosterone except the double bond is in the 1-position instead of the 4. I read the the original paper where it was first synthesized back in 1962 or so, but it was never marketed and it just forgotten about until PH's became popular. M1t is about half as effective as 1-test, but there is a way to regain the potency by altering the 3-keto group. 1-test was 2x as effective as TP.

Extremely impressive bro!! Thanks for the info
06-04-2004, 01:52 PM
nsa

Yeah, thats good to know.

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