Methyl-1-TestosteronE (17alpha methyl-17beta-hydroxy-androst-1-ene-3-one)

[LOGANXXX]

Hi Bro's,

This is new around here and never heard about it, i hope you can give more input....
Is it a Pro-hormone or a steroid ? Is it worth?
How is the apropiate way to stack it? Use it for Kick start?

Thanks for the help

[nsa]

http://67.18.108.244//showthread.php?t=100595

It says ph in the thread, but its a steroid .

[hung-solo]

Hi Bro's,

This is new around here and never heard about it, i hope you can give more input....
Is it a Pro-hormone or a steroid ? Is it worth?
How is the apropiate way to stack it? Use it for Kick start?

Thanks for the help

curious my self so BUUUMP!!

[nsa]

IM planning on using it for a kickstarter, but you need to have some active test in your system while on m1t, so it would be good to use prop and m1t to kickstart.

[righton]

Somebodys got to do a controlled test where as 2 ppl take 10cc cyp and 10cc m1t(or if its only an oral...halo or whatever) and put this debate to rest without the manufacturer claims. For christ sakes...food is a steroid !!

[LOGANXXX]

any experience? bump...

[nsa]

10 cc's of m1t is way too much.

[jmp51483]

Would it be worth taking M1T at the end of a test E cycle? I got 3 weeks left and I am kind of curious before I start my PCT.

[nsa]

it will help somewhat, but its usually used as a kickstarter or a 4 week cycle with an active test.

[SportsMedVIP]

Could a MOD in the know please throw up an answer to wether they are the real thing like PPL or not, or PM it if needed. I'm just as curious as the rest.

[jmp51483]

yea I was just looking for that little extra boost at the end of my cycle

I'm Gonna throw it in just to see if it works... Ill just stop the last day of my Test Shot and start pct 2 weeks after..


I'll keep everyone updated.

[Lozgod]

I used it as a cycle when I wanted to see if the pro-hormones were garbage or not. I gained about 15 pounds, however I had no PCT and lost it all pretty much so it does work. It is a steroid by chemical definition but a pro-hormone by legal definition. It won't be long before it is banned.

[nsa]

You should try and run it til the day before you start pct.

[SportsMedVIP]

I used it as a cycle when I wanted to see if the pro-hormones were garbage or not. I gained about 15 pounds, however I had no PCT and lost it all pretty much so it does work. It is a steroid by chemical definition but a pro-hormone by legal definition. It won't be long before it is banned.

So what is it comparable to then? Does it use an ester? It sounds like you guys are saying to run it like prop. What is it? Anymore details? Sounds like it did something for Loz that's for sure.

[jmp51483]

You should try and run it til the day before you start pct.

Ok Nsa,


I'll do that... I'll let you guys know if I gain anymore.. I seem to be holding steady at 228 right now..

[jmp51483]

Hey Nsa,


Do you think this is strong enough not to take during Time Off of a cycle? Or would it be alright to take this during off time until you start your next cycle? Just a thought I was throwing around.

[nsa]

It is too strong to take during time off, It suppresses your hpta alot.

[Lozgod]

Hey Nsa,


Do you think this is strong enough not to take during Time Off of a cycle? Or would it be alright to take this during off time until you start your next cycle? Just a thought I was throwing around.

I think what you asking is, is it ok to take in between cycles, and I would say no. I had typical AAS sides. The worst one was pimples, I mean I thought I was going through puberty again.

[Lozgod]

So what is it comparable to then? Does it use an ester? It sounds like you guys are saying to run it like prop. What is it? Anymore details? Sounds like it did something for Loz that's for sure.

I took it ED. Orally, if I did it again, which I won't but if I did I would go topically I guess. I'd rather just use Dbol , Test, and Deca or EQ. Same sides, better results.

[jmp51483]

I think what you asking is, is it ok to take in between cycles, and I would say no. I had typical AAS sides. The worst one was pimples, I mean I thought I was going through puberty again.

Lol, sorry if that question looked screwed up I am at work trying to look on the net lol. Im really not worried about the sides to be honest more worried about how bad it effects HPTA levels and whatnot. I'll just hold off for now I guess.

[Lozgod]

Lol, sorry if that question looked screwed up I am at work trying to look on the net lol. Im really not worried about the sides to be honest more worried about how bad it effects HPTA levels and whatnot. I'll just hold off for now I guess.

Consider it a steroid . Thats what it is. Legal or not it is a steroid.

[SportsMedVIP]

I took it ED. Orally, if I did it again, which I won't but if I did I would go topically I guess. I'd rather just use Dbol, Test, and Deca or EQ. Same sides, better results.

Ok, that gives me a better idea. I'm not really too interested in trying it unless it's a PPL type deal, just curious. I've played the prohormone game before. Useless unless you're 60 years old and lucky enough to have a good conversion rate.

[Lozgod]

Ok, that gives me a better idea. I'm not really too interested in trying it unless it's a PPL type deal, just curious. I've played the prohormone game before. Useless unless you're 60 years old and lucky enough to have a good conversion rate.

PPL has the best pro-hormones IMO.

[SportsMedVIP]

PPL has the best pro-hormones IMO.

Yes sir

[jmp51483]

Yes sir

Firm believers eh???


I have heard too many mixed stories about them... Afraid to take the plunge.. So they're "hormones" are supernatural eh?

[nsa]

The biggest problem is the hpta suppresion.

[jmp51483]

The biggest problem is the hpta suppresion.

Well if thats the case would it be smart to take it at the end of a cycle? I guess it would be okay since I am basically already messing with HPTA... PCT should bring that back up..

I think I just answered my own question

[nsa]

Yeah, its fine during a cycle, your hpta is pretty suppressed anyways, and yes pct will get it back to normal.

[SportsMedVIP]

Firm believers eh???


I have heard too many mixed stories about them... Afraid to take the plunge.. So they're "hormones" are supernatural eh?

I can vouch for the anti-e's via experience but the rest I trust the MOD's on. Just to clear that up.

[LOGANXXX]

I'm searching myself a lot about it....nsa, would 15mg a day enought for a first timer with m1t?

[LOGANXXX]

And other thing....you mentioned the sides are the same as dball's and anadrol 's? Is that true? I supose it does not convert into estrogen...

[jmp51483]

IF M1t isn't actually a pro-hormone then it doesn't need a converting substance like 4ad correct? Or am I totally wrong on this?

[Powrlftr]

IF M1t isn't actually a pro-hormone then it doesn't need a converting substance like 4ad correct? Or am I totally wrong on this?

You are right, it is a bona fide AAS, it has the same structure as methyltestosterone except the double bond is in the 1-position instead of the 4. I read the the original paper where it was first synthesized back in 1962 or so, but it was never marketed and it just forgotten about until PH's became popular. M1t is about half as effective as 1-test, but there is a way to regain the potency by altering the 3-keto group. 1-test was 2x as effective as TP.

[jmp51483]

You are right, it is a bona fide AAS, it has the same structure as methyltestosterone except the double bond is in the 1-position instead of the 4. I read the the original paper where it was first synthesized back in 1962 or so, but it was never marketed and it just forgotten about until PH's became popular. M1t is about half as effective as 1-test, but there is a way to regain the potency by altering the 3-keto group. 1-test was 2x as effective as TP.

Extremely impressive bro!! Thanks for the info

[nsa]

Yeah, thats good to know.