underground supertest350 real?

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has anyone heard of supertest 350 (underground)
50mg dia is real from the same company for sure!

[MBaraso]

I think that's I P's garbage isn't it?

[UrbanLegend]

Its probably real, I have seen test blends that go as high as 600mg/ml.

[Anhydro78]

chinese dudes are making 600mg/ml testosterone blend ouch!!!!!!!!!!

[MBaraso]

chinese dudes are making 600mg/ml testosterone blend ouch!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah I heard I P is making real high tests now. I used his cyp a few yrs ago and could hardly walk...and that was only 250mgs per ml.
I couldn't even imagine what the 600 feels like.
I wonder if he sends you a heating pad and a Dr.'s excuse for work along with the gear??

[Lozgod]

I think that's I P's garbage isn't it?

IP is now up to 415mg/ml. 350 could be from his old batch.

[Lozgod]

Yeah I heard I P is making real high tests now. I used his cyp a few yrs ago and could hardly walk...and that was only 250mgs per ml.
I couldn't even imagine what the 600 feels like.
I wonder if he sends you a heating pad and a Dr.'s excuse for work along with the gear??

Actually, (I hate looking like his gear representative ) he only uses .5% BA now so it is painless, however I wonder if thats enough to be considered sterile?

[Lozgod]

Not 5% but yes .5%.

[Lozgod]

This is from his website.

Benzyl alchohle (BA): it kills germs but is very painfull and corrosive as it attacks ruber inside the stoper and even syrenge , so must allways stored in glass bottle in pure form , even at %1 some guys show reaction to it as injection site swell up and harden and very painfull to touch so we only use %0.5 thats not enough but we had to ..so if you can stand the pain you can add more BA , some guys use benzyl benzoate claming less painfull but i can not tell any difference and i do not know benoate be as effective , some guys used solution up to %2 of alchohles and said gotten used to it .. we experimented with methyl paraben and paraben but it seems they do not desolve in oil , but usefull if you are making your own water based , dosage and solubility changed depened on tempreture so our injectables tested lower in winter and higher in summer , when its warm solubility increase so one ml of oil can hold more powders , when temp go down solubilty go down and some of powders separete from solution so it become weaker so i can not guarantee exact dose , for this reason never keep inj steroids in frig , allways keep close to heater , in warm dark place ,powders can settle toward bottom of tank and cause doses to be inconsistant , alchohles increase solubility but they are painfull for example ouer prop/suspension uses %5 alchohls , its horrible and still crystalize and after stock sold nolonger be offered ..you can heat crystalized products on a pan till cryslats melt back in , Freezer test for test products only: put in frig and after couple of days test powders (white solids)should apear if not its fake , EQ usually does not show in freezer test because pure EQ is in honey liqued form to begin with , Deca may or may not freezer test ..colour test: EQ must be darker , because pure EQ is drak orange honey , if EQ same colour as test its fake or underdosed , Deca power is not white either so deca must be a little darker than test but a shade lighter than eq at 200 mg /ml ..the light stuff out there are not 200mg or fake , our tabs guaranteed agains tests within %20 of stated dose because there is some waste in the machine and it varies from batch to batch and also tab thickness not being uniform so a dose from one tab to another can vary slightly , we did lotsa tests and will put up a page with test results when we get time and webspace

[MBaraso]

Actually, (I hate looking like his gear representative ) he only uses .5% BA now so it is painless, however I wonder if thats enough to be considered sterile?

Yeah 5% ba is more then enough.
I like his winny tabs just not his oils..To hit and miss for my likeing.

[1-Cent]

I've seen as high as 700mg /mL sust blends, ouch! Also heard they aren't very affective.

[MBaraso]

Not 5% but yes .5%.

Wait a min. You said .5%? Bro thats like half a ml??
You sure about that?

[Lozgod]

Wait a min. You said .5%? Bro thats like half a ml??
You sure about that?

Read what I pasted. Yes .5%.

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thanx again!

[MBaraso]

Read what I pasted. Yes .5%.

Well if that's true that he's using that little BA in his oils then that's another reason to stay away from I P's stuff. .5% ba is no where near enough Ba to kill the bacteria.

[Lozgod]

OK I am not endorsing his gear here, I just am curious, being a newbie at Homebrew. At .5% BA then filtering through a .2 Whatman then woud it be sterile?

[MBaraso]

OK I am not endorsing his gear here, I just am curious, being a newbie at Homebrew. At .5% BA then filtering through a .2 Whatman then woud it be sterile?

Not at .5% That's half a ml. At 5% (5 mls) then yeah that's more then enough.
I just made some prop using 3% BA, then baked it and that will kill any bacteria. It's also a good idea to let the gear sit for 3 days or so after you make it to give the BA a good chance to kill off anything that might be in there.