so far this is my upcoming cycle....

[your mom]

still working on a cycle, but this might be it:

1-15 letro or ldex+nolva
1-6 var 35mg/ed
1-12 eq 400mg/ew
1-13 cyp 400mg/ew
7-15 mas 50mg/ed
15-18 clomid+nolva
7-15 hcg 500iu 2x wk
1-18 b12 500mcg/eod sub-q

not sure on ldex+nolva or letro. dont want much water retention so was thinking of letro.


also b12 can be injected sub-q, right?

[UrbanDawg]

since you are asking for opinions heres mine

1) Run the TEST 500 and the EQ either 400 or 500
you should have TEST >= EQ

2) Run the var athe end of the cycle

3) drop the mas

4) injerct the b12 *with* the juiuce

PM bull , Einie or MUd to fine tune the proper timing of HCG but id say you should run it all the way thru start to finish injecting e4D. Id ask Bull or Einie or Mud if 15 weeks warrants HCG though. 20 weeks does for sure.


4) Run tribulus ED

still working on a cycle, but this might be it:

1-15 letro or ldex+nolva
1-6 var 35mg/ed
1-12 eq 400mg/ew
1-13 cyp 400mg/ew
7-15 mas 50mg/ed
15-18 clomid+nolva
7-15 hcg 500iu 2x wk
1-18 b12 500mcg/eod sub-q

not sure on ldex+nolva or letro. dont want much water retention so was thinking of letro.


also b12 can be injected sub-q, right?

[UrbanDawg]

and..why is my mother doing steroids ?

[your mom]

since you are asking for opinions heres mine

1) Run the TEST 500 and the EQ either 400 or 500
you should have TEST >= EQ

2) Run the var athe end of the cycle

3) drop the mas

4) injerct the b12 *with* the juiuce

PM bull , Einie or MUd to fine tune the proper timing of HCG but id say you should run it all the way thru start to finish injecting e4D. Id ask Bull or Einie or Mud if 15 weeks warrants HCG though. 20 weeks does for sure.


4) Run tribulus ED

I really want this for just gaining lbm. I usuall do good with low dose cycle's. I wanted to shoot only 250 of eq and cyp for about 12 weeks. Ive been off now for about 4 months and i feel great. I'm trying to get my bf alot lower b4 i start. I was going to shoot the b12 ed subq. Will it be effective once a week? why cant i use the var in the beg?

[TheMudMan]

If your going for a cycle that will help you with LBM......... Why not consider running Prop/EQ/var and depeding on your cycle histroy Fina

[your mom]

If your going for a cycle that will help you with LBM......... Why not consider running Prop/EQ/var and depeding on your cycle histroy Fina

that's what im changing it to now. How about this?

1-12 eq 350 ew
1-12 prop 50mg ed
1-10 fina 50mg ed
9-15 var 35mg ed
1-15 ldex .5 eod
1-15 nolva 10mg ed
15-21 clomid+nolva
7-15 hcg 500iu 2x wk
b12 500mcg ed

[TheMudMan]

1-12 eq 500 ew
1-15 prop 75mg ed
1-10 fina 50mg ed
9-15 var 35mg ed
1-15 ldex .25 ed
1-15 nolva 10mg ed

Start PCT 3 days after your last Prop injection
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6

The HCG you can either run 500iu's Sat and Sun from the start of the cycle to a week before PCT......... Or start it week 10 or 12 a week out from PCT....... depends on how hard you get shutdown while on gear.

[your mom]

Would it be ok to run 50mg/ed of prop with the fina the same?

[TheMudMan]

i wouldn't you will chance sides when the fina shuts you down