Thread: tren and fat loss?
06-09-2004, 09:46 AM #1
tren and fat loss?
sup guys, any of you that has or still used tren , does tren help with the fat loss? also does test prop help with it too
06-09-2004, 09:57 AM #2
bump for info
06-09-2004, 10:31 AM #3
06-09-2004, 10:36 AM #4
yes tren will help burn fat through a thermo effect,i cant tell you how exactly that happens but when your sitting in the air conditioned room and sweating like a pig on a spit you'll know its working
06-09-2004, 10:39 AM #5Originally Posted by DEVLDOG
06-09-2004, 10:51 AM #6
06-09-2004, 10:57 AM #7chinups Guest
yes it does
06-09-2004, 11:02 AM #8
You gotta understand that steroids help in Muscle Growth and do not burn fat...cardio and diet burn fat....more muscle will in turn speed up your metabolsim but the whole point in taking steroids while dieting is to keep you from becomine Catabolic..aka losing too much muscle.
06-09-2004, 11:03 AM #9chinups Guest
06-09-2004, 11:10 AM #10
I don't know the original author:
Why Trenbolone is effective at fat loss
While reading this article keep in mind that Tren binds to the androgen recpeptor incredibly well.
The Androgen Receptor
There are many mechanisms behind the ability of androgens to reduce body fat. However, one key determinant of the amount of adipose tissue reduced is that particular androgen's ability to bind to the AR.
I need to mention that most androgens interact with both AR and GR (Glucocorticoid Receptors). We'll touch on that later. For now, let me explain why it matters how well an androgen binds to the AR in terms of reducing adipose tissue. Most of you know that ARs are present in tissue such as muscle. This is one of the mechanisms behind their ability to induce muscular hypertrophy. Now what does this have to do with body fat? Simple, AR's are present in adipose tissue as well. (1)
What does this mean? Well, it's been shown that the higher the density of ARs, the more that lipid uptake is inhibited. (2) It's also been shown that androgens that bind avidly to the AR cause an increase or upregulation of AR in adipocytes. (1) I think the greater the androgen binds to the AR, the more upregulation of AR in adipocytes occurs. This would lead to a significant reduction in subcutaneous adipose tissue. (3)
Notice that I specifically mentioned subcutaneous adipose tissue (fat right beneath the skin) and not visceral adipose tissue (fat around the internal organs). Why did I bother to differentiate between the two? Simple. For the most part, we bodybuilders are concerned only with subcutaneous adipose tissue. Visceral fat doesn't have much of an effect on a person's appearance. For that reason, we're only concerning ourselves with subcutaneous adipose tissue.
Now, what other mechanisms of action can account for the effects seen with those steroids that bind tightly to the AR? Well, those that bind tightly to the AR will decrease LPL (Lipoprotein Lipase), which is an enzyme that causes lipid accumulation. (4) They may also decrease Acetyl-CoA Carboxylase and Fatty Acid Synthetase.(5)
Another interesting note is that androgens have been shown to increase adenyl cylclase as well. This is the enzyme which is responsible for the conversion of cytoplasmic ATP into cyclic AMP. Increasing its concentrations is a good thing, in other words.
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06-09-2004, 11:15 AM #11
that was very informative einst. thanx for all the replies guys. peace
06-09-2004, 12:47 PM #12
anyone else that has experienced this?
06-09-2004, 12:52 PM #13Originally Posted by chinups
06-09-2004, 01:17 PM #14Associate Member
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**** hung, you're post whoring like a mofo on this thread
06-09-2004, 01:23 PM #15Originally Posted by supirman45
06-09-2004, 01:24 PM #16Originally Posted by supirman45
Haha! I was thinking the same ****in thing!!!! **** Bro chill out!!!
06-09-2004, 01:26 PM #17Originally Posted by sooner45
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dude, your avatar just makes me laugh when I see it. Kinda freaks me out. And on this thread I've seen it like 20 times in a row....
06-09-2004, 01:45 PM #19Originally Posted by supirman45
06-10-2004, 06:25 AM #20chinups Guest
I think mostly ppl are using 75mg eod...
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