Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1
    Fpot66 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    93

    1st Cycle Planning

    What's up guys, I am in the planning stages of my first AAS cycle and was hoping I could get some reviews and suggestions. Actually I am going to post 3 cycles worth, since I have a plan as to what I would like to see over the next year or so.

    Age:21
    Weight: 240
    Height: 5'10"
    BF%: a classic endomorph (stubborn love handles, huge since HS), approx. 18% not 100% accurate (measured by myself with a caliper, I am going to have a full medical exam and will get it done at that time along with all the labs)
    Training: 7 years, seriously for 5, with a strict diet for 3 years
    Experience: no AAS, 3 M1T cycles

    Cycle 1: Non-AAS cutting, PH's
    Throughout: Clen /ECA rotation
    Weeks 1-6: T3 pyramid 10%-50%-40%
    Weeks 1-6: M-Dien ramping from 6mg to 12mg
    Weeks 1-8: M4OHN ramping from 8mg to 20mg
    Pct:
    Nolva 60mg 3 days, 40 mg 4 days, 20 mg 2 weeks

    Cycle 2: 1st AAS cycle, Bulking
    Week 1-4 Test Prop. 150mg E3D
    Week 1-12 Test E. 200mg 2x per week (Mon/Thurs)
    Week 13-14 Test Prop. 150mg E3D
    Nolva 20mg EOD
    Dex .25 ED
    PCT:
    Nolva 80mg 3 days, 60mg 4 days, 40 mg 1 week, 20 mg 2 weeks

    Cycle 3: 1st AAS Cutting Cycle
    Week 1-8 Var 50mg ED
    Week 1-6 T3 pyramid 10%-50%-40%
    Throughout: Clen/ECA rotation
    PCT:
    Nolva 60 mg 3 days, 40 mg 4 days, 20 mg 2 weeks

    I am going to be running Proscar 1.25mg throughout. I also have liver protection, R-ALA and Milk Thistle. Numerous other supps, Hawthorn, Taurine, Potassium, Magnesium, Saw Palmetto, ALCAR, etc.

    My diet is clean and strict, I am currently running below maintenance in preperation for the upcoming cutter, approx. 2350 cals. 200-250g protien per day.

    I know you have to build the house before you can paint it pertaining to running the 1st cutter before the bulker, but I was already planning on this cutter before I planned on making a trip to Mexico in a couple months.

    Questions:
    1) I won't be able to get any gear for my cutting cycle coming up, but should the M-Dien and M4OHN be enough to cut some fat while retaining most of the LBM with the T3?
    2) How does the ancillary use on the bulking cycle look?
    3) For PCT on the bulker, Clomid combo with nolva, clomid alone, or is it good as is?
    4) For PCT on the Var/T3 cutter, should 3 weeks be good, or longer?

    Thanks
    Fpot66

  2. #2
    Da Bull's Avatar
    Da Bull is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    X
    Posts
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Fpot66

    Cycle 2: 1st AAS cycle, Bulking
    Week 1-4 Test Prop. 150mg E3D
    Week 1-12 Test E. 200mg 2x per week (Mon/Thurs)
    Week 13-14 Test Prop. 150mg E3D
    Nolva 20mg EOD
    Dex .25 ED
    PCT:
    Nolva 80mg 3 days, 60mg 4 days, 40 mg 1 week, 20 mg 2 weeks
    Well,i know hardly anything about pro hormones these days,so I won't bother with the first PH cycle.However,for your anabolic cycle,I will make my suggestion.
    i really don't think you'll need the prop your first cycle.you'll need to do Ed or Eod shots.and I don't know if yout up for that.I'll suggerst Dbol instead.

    WK 1-4 30 mgs Ed Dbol
    WK 1-12 400 mgs test E

    Nolv @ 10 mgs Ed throughout cycle,and 20 mgs Ed at pct.
    L-dex @ .25 mgs Ed throughout cycle.

    Clomid will start 2 weeks after last test injection.day 1 300 mgs,day 2-11 100 mgs ED,day 12-21 50 mgs ED

  3. #3
    damiongage's Avatar
    damiongage is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Pergatory
    Posts
    3,432
    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    Well,i know hardly anything about pro hormones these days,so I won't bother with the first PH cycle.However,for your anabolic cycle,I will make my suggestion.
    i really don't think you'll need the prop your first cycle.you'll need to do Ed or Eod shots.and I don't know if yout up for that.I'll suggerst Dbol instead.

    WK 1-4 30 mgs Ed Dbol
    WK 1-12 400 mgs test E

    Nolv @ 10 mgs Ed throughout cycle,and 20 mgs Ed at pct.
    L-dex @ .25 mgs Ed throughout cycle.

    Clomid will start 2 weeks after last test injection.day 1 300 mgs,day 2-11 100 mgs ED,day 12-21 50 mgs ED
    same here...I would bump the test to 500mg ew

  4. #4
    BLACKZILLA's Avatar
    BLACKZILLA is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    state of mind
    Posts
    303
    I'd second the 500/week test. If you can deal with the ED/EOD injections, then I think prop would be the best, since it'll help most with lean mass and little water retention. Enan is a great choice though, and you really won't gain a lot of water, or fat with it. It really comes down to the freq of inj here.-Also...go with the cllomid on the bulker along with what you have posted. Good luck....

  5. #5
    Fpot66 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    93
    I can definetly raise up the Test E to 500mg/week. As for the kickstart, I chose Prop because I was hoping to avoid D-bol. I think that Var would just get too expensive to pick up for more then 1 cycle of it, and I know A-bombs are not something I want to mess with at the start of my first cycle.

    I know I threw out a lot of information in my first post, but I know I am only going to be in Mexico the one time, so I have to stock up while I am there for everything I will need for a few cycles.

    Fpot66

  6. #6
    Fpot66 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    93
    Bump for some more suggestions and constructive criticism.

    Fpot66

  7. #7
    Matto20's Avatar
    Matto20 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    576
    keep your cutter. that looks good. var will help you lose those "stubborn love handles" with its sweet visceral abdominal fat-burning effects.

    are you sure about running that pct? if i were you i'd have some clomid on hand, just in case...

  8. #8
    Fpot66 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    93
    I can definetly easily get some clomid and run that for the PCT's.

    Fpot66

  9. #9
    Fpot66 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    93
    Could anyone give me some price ranges for Cancun/Cozumel Mexican goods?

    6000mg Test E?
    4000mg Test Prop? (I changed my mind from Var to Prop for my second cutting cycle)
    150 5mg Dbols?

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •