Good ole' sust/deca

**MonsterRugby** · 06-12-2004, 07:12 PM

Ive got a buddy thats been working out well for a few years... he's 6'0'' 225 low body fat. He is going to start his first ever cycle... He's got some Sust250 and Deca300. He's going to do 500mg sust and 300mg of deca and PCT with clomid, nolv, and HCG to be safe... is this an alright first cycle? any downfalls? or is he good to go?

**PurePower** · 06-12-2004, 07:18 PM

Sus needs to be injected E3D minium. IMO Sus isnt a good first timer steroid because of its (not well practiced) injection frequency.

Get some B-6 to be on the safe side.

**scotttiger54** · 06-12-2004, 07:21 PM

i realize it could be hard changing his mind.... but try to convince him to just stick with single esther test for a first. tell him to just do some test e @ 500mg/wk along with proper use of nolvadex and pct. trust me, he'd be satisfied

**MonsterRugby** · 06-12-2004, 07:24 PM

ya I told him to hit 400mg Test E and 300mg of Deca ... I think he'd listen to me.. Im doing Sust once a week 250mg and deca once a week 300mg.. a bit of a roller coaster ride.. but im gettin f-in huge.. heh. I'll tell him 400mg test 300mg deca

**Mr. Death** · 06-12-2004, 07:25 PM

Looks good to me. The only thing is that the HCG isn't necessary IMO. My first cycle was sust/deca , and it went very smoothly with great gains. How many weeks is he planning on running this cycle?

**MonsterRugby** · 06-12-2004, 07:57 PM

8-10 weeks... how much sust/deca did you run your first cycle?

**UrbanLegend** · 06-12-2004, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Death

The only thing is that the HCG isn't necessary IMO.

It may not be neccesary, but its cheap and a good thing to have on hand if you look down and realize your balls are now raisens. Some people need it, some people don't.

**palequail** · 06-12-2004, 08:09 PM

I loved Sus and Deca ...I shot 2x per week...Things were fine and I had no negative side effects...

**Mr. Death** · 06-12-2004, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by MonsterRugby

8-10 weeks... how much sust/deca did you run your first cycle?

500mg sust and 400mg deca for 8 weeks.

**Mr. Death** · 06-12-2004, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by UrbanLegend

It may not be neccesary, but its cheap and a good thing to have on hand if you look down and realize your balls are now raisens. Some people need it, some people don't.

True, but it's usually only necessary for long cycles which this obviously won't be because it is his first. If i was me I would go without it and if he feels like he will need it during his next cycle, he could use it then. No need shooting up HCG if you don't have to.