I read about 4 or 5 diffrent substances for protection on orals.
I dont want to take all 5 of them.
Is there one specific substance that is the best possible protection of the liver ?
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I read about 4 or 5 diffrent substances for protection on orals.
I dont want to take all 5 of them.
Is there one specific substance that is the best possible protection of the liver ?
I like tylers liver detox .......but that's just me...
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Originally Posted by Da Bull
thank you... kinder, gentler Don (the old gotti is the best though)
Most liver protecting herbs and vitamins are on a GNC shelf for $2-$6. None of them are gonna be Ultra Protecting. They are just herbs. Using an AAS and taking Milk Thistle is like using a bullet proof vest against an M-16. It may lower the damage but it is gonna be far from stopping it.
If they were very powerful they would be pharmaceutical not $6.00. An example is Niacin, Niacin is very effective at raising HDL in very high doses, that why there are pharmaceutical grade Niacin doses.
I see there's no pleasing you..I'll change it back. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by UrbanDawg
are tylers liver detox perscription only or r they over the counter?
Dabull will be the first board member to legitimately hit 10,000 posts tonight. everyone give him a hand!
Milk Thistle,
OTC and Europeans have been using the stuff for years to treat alcoholics for cirossis of the liver (yes prescribed by docs) it isn't an RX because it is a natural herb not a patent medecine and drug companies can't make any money from it.
sorry this is a dumb question but ive always wanted to ask:
who is the guy in DA BULL's avatar?
Well there are vitamins and herbs that are used as an RX. Yohimbe, niacin, folic acid, just to name 3. I am just saying people shouldn't expect or be naive enough to think a GNC bottle of Milk Thistle is offering fool proof protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1victor
Agreed lozgod, unfortunately there is no "magic pill"
I need to get milk thistle I know I need to look for something with 80% silym.... (I duno how to spell it) but anyways do you know where I can get a good one for cheap??
out of curiosity, what oral steroid are you running?
if it is just anavar as your current cycle indicates, you need not worry TOO much about liver protection. anavar is extremely mild on the liver compared with the other orals, and is even given to recovering alcoholics to help them gain muscle mass. a good supplementation of milk thistle, ALA, or tyler's liver detox would probably be more than enough. i have seen many lab tests that people on EF posted when they had their liver values checked on anavar and i had never once seen a dangerous or even slightly dangerous elevated liver value - even without using liver protectants. if i were you and were running anavar, i would be more concerned about the effects on your lipid profile. to take care of this, take policosanol (to keep your ateries nice n clean!). ALA/MilkThistle/Tyler's along with policosanol are the only ancillaries you need when you run anavar (assuming that is the oral you are talking about). and oh yeah, don't forget the creatine...
I think tylerys liver detox + r-ala is about the best combo there is. There are lots of other things that you can add, but if I was only going to take two, it would be those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Bull
It's okay...you are a Gator fan...we realize that you can't be all knowing with such a handicap.:p It is John Gotti....the mob boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by frank_frank
As for this thread, ALA in concert with milk thistle should be cheap enough for anybody that can afford to run var! If you want a little extra, use the tyler's or Liv 52.
I took milk thistle. 175mg 3 times a day (with meals).
hehehe .. yeah but you know that im right about this one...Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Bull
6 weeks of VAR @40mgED then 10 weeks off then 6 weeks of the saame
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Originally Posted by Matto20
Lots and lots of plain ole water!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Swellin
lol...hahaha nice one!!