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i noticed everytime there's a "debate" on using Sust, there's lots of people that are Die Hard Ethanate fans....but not to often i hear about Cypionate? I have access to Upjohn Cypionate or Test Ethanate from PVL....what should i do Guru's? (haha)
also... i have some sust that i was just not going to bother with for now...but what if i added it in? is that a major no no or what?
thanks for the info
enathate and cypionate are basicly the same...cyp is slightly longer lasting ester..i think the half lifes are 1 day off or so
so from what i understand you inject the Eth. every 4 dayz? So with the other you wouldn't have to till every 5th?
If the stuff's legit, the Upjohn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightrider
if the stuff is real, i go with upjohn without hesitation.
why?
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It's USA human grade gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightrider
upjohn is considered one of the better co out there. def upjohn.
I have cyp. One week in. I will telll you if it is better than en in about 5 weeks.
Susta sucks.
BTW. four days instead of every five would be good.
enathate imo
theres quite a bit of fake upjohn out there but it is by far the best if its legit...
Cdn Upjohn is extremely hard to get. I see it all the time (and Upjohn winny) and people claim it's real...doubt it!! It's a great fake.
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Originally Posted by SV-1
i was under the impression that it was a "vet" product...
Nope, Upjohn is human.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightrider
There was a merger between Upjohn and Pharmacia. I've gotten Upjohn and Pharmacia Cyp from a hospital pharmacy and the detail sheet is *identical* to this one.
http://www.pfizer.com/download/uspi_...stosterone.pdf
well my source says that it's good and comes with original boxes with inserts...
sound good?
Well, according to MBH, it's very hard to get in Canada (legit). I'm in Cali so I'm sure he knows the situation there better then I do. I guess it depends on how much you trust your source. :unsure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightrider
how would you guys rate upjohn vs. icn galenika?
what exactly is a "fake" btw? I mean...is it just nothing? or a weaker version? blah blah blah?
:)
better watch out for them fake "testosterone-depots" from upjohn, alot of them ****ers are fake. i'd say a good 80% of them are fake.
I can't. Upjohn cyp and pharmacy compounded cyp and deca (also human grade) are the only pre-made steroids I've ever used. Now I make everything myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by custom fit
oh yae by the way, i would take cypionate or enanthate any day of the week.
and by "fake", we dont mean its weaker, we mean its NOT what you bought. sort of like buying a sprite soft drink for example, then you take a couple sips and find out its only water. get my drift?
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Originally Posted by itsallmental
understood.
but would a "fake" really make anymoney when the packages and so on are all copied to?
i guess i mean why to "good fakes" happen?
i dont get what your saying?
bro, if you DO happen to stumble upon a source who claims he has legit upjohn test, i wouldnt be suprised if he took all the legit test out of the bottle and injected nothing but sesame oil back in the bottle. be careful.
good fakes make's that cumbag alot of money. bad fakes are thrown by the waste side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightrider
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Originally Posted by itsallmental
well...my source does deal quite a bit and the people that "directed" me to him are pretty huge and told me not to worry...
but like you said....ya never know eh?
he said that he is in contact straight with a rep from them and that's where it comes from.
This dude serioiusly gets EVERYTHING so maybe it's not crap
Good luck and enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightrider
enathate good
Since Cyp has a slightly longer half life does it take longer to kick in?? Also, how long does it take to start feeling it?
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Same as enth.
Upjohn Cyp IS available in Canada..Only a few good sources have it...
The PV Lab Enathate is also a great product...
Test is test, get whatever is cheaper. Just make sure the **** is real..