Im Just courious how effective the Tren Enanthate is. Anybody know if it is worth buying it or will i be disappointed and what would be the dosage.
IM planning of duing
1-8 Winny 75mg ED
1-8 Tren
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Im Just courious how effective the Tren Enanthate is. Anybody know if it is worth buying it or will i be disappointed and what would be the dosage.
IM planning of duing
1-8 Winny 75mg ED
1-8 Tren
tren enathate is cery effective, just a longer esther than acetate , meaning it will take longer to kick in
but the plus side is less injections
you need test in there big guy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Net rage
If you run tren enth you're gonna need to go longer then 8 weeks, and either way you need to add test.
It is still Trenbolone....you just don't have to shoot ED or EOD...just every 4 days or so....also you need to run it for longer.
Its like comparing test E with test prop, its the same thing but with a difference ester attached. Enthate takes around 4 weeks to kick in I believe, but the acetate ester should kick in very quickly. Good luck with the cycle, add some test in there so you don't get to many sexual side effects bro.
That isn't true --> It is the same thing (if you mean the same parent hormone) but with totally different characteristics...Quote:
Originally Posted by Steroids101
This is a piece of my Steroid Guide for Beginners Thread I'm working on...
Esters Explained:
Most Injectable steroids are esterfied --> Meaning they have an ester attached to them...
Esters slow the release of the steroidmolecules...
Not only does this mean you have to inject less frequently to keep blood levels stable then with the Base...
The ester also affects the characteristics of the steroid, even though it has the same parentmolecule, this has three reasons:
1) Some steroids benefit more from a steady release of molecules then from "shocking" the body by saturating all receptors at once.
2) The ester affects the Molecular weight of the total meaning longer esters mean less of the parent hormone
(Test Undecanoate is the longest ester and will yield about 60% Testosteron per mg in contrast to Test Base which is 100%)
3) Enzymes-interactions --> The body works with a Feedbacksystem, the higher the concentration the more the body will try to normalize the old situation (Homeostasis), that's why in theory Test Base is the worst when referring to sides as Gyno since the enormous amount of accumelating Test in the blood in a short period, will be compensated by an enormous amount of Estrogensproduction.
Greets
Kingofmasters
thats alot of winni your gonna be like the tin man
you cant run tren without test if you value your body...
1-12 400 mgs tren enth
1-13 500 mgs test enth
6-13 50 mgs winny ed
i dont know if you should be running tren not knowing that you needed test in there tho bro... do some reading on the board for a few weeks before starting...
How about Tren hexahydrobencylcarbonate? Is it faster acting? I have been told that it needs 2 weeks after last shot before begining PCT. Since the dose is small, injections will be as frequent as tren acetate, so I see no advantage. Body Research and BD have reintroduced Parabolan generics, and since Body Research is like next to my front porch, I'm quite interested. Mind you, I'm still not on juice ever, just learning. Nevertheless, pls shed light. :yellowcon
good points...Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofmasters
the molecular weight of tren enth is 72 i belive and tren act is like in the low 90's...not 100% sure so i dont wanna say i know for sure...
but yeah...results will be similar to some extent, but its still very differnt to your body and how it reacts to it...some say enth is better, some say act...use them both and see for yourself...
Some common ester weights:Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdStone
Suspension 100mg
Trenbolone Acetate 87mg
Testosterone Propionate 83mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 75mg
Testosterone Enanthate 72mg
Testosterone Cypionate 70mg
Nandrolne Phenylpropionate 67mg
Nandrolone Decanoate 64mg
Testosterone Undecanoate 63mg
got one...the other was off...but i said low 90's so i was close...thanks for clearing that upQuote:
Originally Posted by SV-1
bump....good thread....
Knowing you, I'm surprised you don't have that info on speed post. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdStone
nah...i learned that stuff a year ago...now i just kinda keep it on the back burner...have some good lab stuff on speedy post...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SV-1
These aren't the Molecular Weights, this just is how much mg of the base 100 mg of that steroid yields...Quote:
Originally Posted by SV-1
so 63 mg per 100 mg means 63% is base and 37% is ester per molecule...
If you want to know Esterweight then you need the ester Formula
e.g. C2H40 and then calculate the number of U's it is in the periodic system...
Sorry to drop all this science on ya...
Greets
Kingofmasters
That's what I was shooting for. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kingofmasters
so if you inject 100mg of Testosterone Enanthate you're only actually getting 72 mg into the blood?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mealticket
hmmmm...ain't that some chit.................:)
No!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mealticket
You get 100 mg of Testosterone Enantate but only 72 mg of pure Testosteron (I hope nobody now wants to compensate for the esterweights by upping up dosages!)
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofmasters
why not? i'd love to know what suspension feels like by proxy... just shoot 140 mgs of enth or whatever if would be to equal 100 mgs of free testerone in the blood.
if i'm not mistaken, compensation with the dosages would give you the same amount in your bloodstream as shooting suspension...
Didn't you read my post --> Look at point 1 and 2Quote:
Originally Posted by monstercojones
1) Some steroids benefit more from a steady release of molecules then from "shocking" the body by saturating all receptors at once.
2) The ester affects the Molecular weight of the total meaning longer esters mean less of the parent hormone
(Test Undecanoate is the longest ester and will yield about 60% Testosteron per mg in contrast to Test Base which is 100%)
3) Enzymes-interactions --> The body works with a Feedbacksystem, the higher the concentration the more the body will try to normalize the old situation (Homeostasis), that's why in theory Test Base is the worst when referring to sides as Gyno since the enormous amount of accumelating Test in the blood in a short period, will be compensated by an enormous amount of Estrogensproduction.
The different esters have different charecteristics --> So compensating for the ester weight will not give you similar experiences by using Test Enan, to experince how Test Suspension is like
Here's the kicker you get more in a fast acting ester but you build up more or have a higher peak dose with a longer ester.
JohnnyB