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    clomid, anti estrogen?

    on steroid .comīs Steroid Effectiveness site itīs says that clomid is anti estrogen? does it prevent gyno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starwin
    on steroid.comīs Steroid Effectiveness site itīs says that clomid is anti estrogen? does it prevent gyno?
    It's an anti-e but a very weak one....... Nolva is the superior SERM to keep receprtor sites clean from binding estrogen

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    i think any weak anti e depends on your body copm. if you are suceptable to estro than i would get a more poreful one

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    clomid will get your hpta back,and it is a weak anti e, and nolva will help gyno,

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    I wouldnt take clomid as an anti e. The only way that i would is if i was in the middle of a cycle and the gf flushed all my anti e's and all i had was clomid. But it then again it probably wouldnt help.

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    studies have showed that clomiphene and tamoxifen both SERMS are selective to which tissue they bind to. Tamoxifen (nolvadex ) is the primary estrogen blocker for it competes as a weak estrogen and binds to the receptors as opposed to clomiphene's selectiveness to the pitutary to stimulate LH (lutrinizing hormone).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyRoids
    studies have showed that clomiphene and tamoxifen both SERMS are selective to which tissue they bind to. Tamoxifen (nolvadex) is the primary estrogen blocker for it competes as a weak estrogen and binds to the receptors as opposed to clomiphene's selectiveness to the pitutary to stimulate LH (lutrinizing hormone).
    LMR, are you implying that it would be beneficial to run clomid & nolva while on cycle? Mike XXL, I believe, uses this method and he claims good results with HPTA recovery when coming off (if you run it throughout your cycle & into PCT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GymDog
    LMR, are you implying that it would be beneficial to run clomid & nolva while on cycle? Mike XXL, I believe, uses this method and he claims good results with HPTA recovery when coming off (if you run it throughout your cycle & into PCT)
    Well Nolva and Clomid are actually selective as to which receptors they bind. Nolva binds best to breast tissues, Clomid binds best to Hypothalmus itself and to your testicles. If you are getting aching balls and nolva doesnt seem to help, try clomid, it will get the estrogen out of your balls better and help prevent as much shrinkage too. Clomid is legendary as being about the best thing for HPTA recovery and works better then most other things. The testicles also seem to love the stuff because you'll produce porno star amounts of cum in no time on the stuff.

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    so its best to run both for your pct...nov and clo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimmReaper
    so its best to run both for your pct...nov and clo?
    Well when your testosterone drops down in PCT, you are no longer converting testosterone to estrogen so your estrogen levels are on a decline as well, however estrogen is slower to decline then testosterone. Usually once you get into PCT, the heat is off on your breast tissues so nolva is not always needed. Clomid always does a better job then anything else as far as getting the estrogen out of your balls but also in restarting your HTPA.

    Also interesting is, some people advocate 300 mg first day of clomid, 100 mg a day for first week, then 50 mg a day for the remainder period up to 20 days. Myself, I find no advantage in using over 50 mg right from day one and many others also reported good results from 50 mg per day. In fact there is one report that 100 mg per day or more can actually inhibit recovery so maybe this is why I see faster recoveries just doing 50 mg per day from day one. I also have less moodyness and emotional problems that would come out if doing the higher 100 mg doses.

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    should you run the clomid whole still on the cycle if your experiencing testicular dysfuntion?...if so..is it the same amount as a post cycle dosage?

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