Thread: so called "recuperation drugs"
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06-23-2004, 11:57 AM #1
so called "recuperation drugs"
Ive been hearing this little phrase a lot lately and every time I ask for clarification nobody has a good answer. so here are the Qs
1) Are all AAS "recuperation" drugs ? i.e do you recup faster than natural on all AAS
2) assuming 2 is false or not all the same - Which AAS help you recuperate from a workout ?
I have always asumed that TEST is the most powerful recup drug but if someone knows the definitive - please tell which drugs help you recup and anything about the mechanism by which they work.
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06-23-2004, 12:07 PM #2
good question...i would say true for number 1
and for number 2...depends on the person and how there body reacts to different ones...i have always though of deca to be a good recuperator...
anyone else?
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06-23-2004, 12:11 PM #3Originally Posted by Latimus
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06-23-2004, 12:20 PM #4VET Retired
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Iwas thinking along the lines of muscle relaxers, gaba, etc i belive they would be morerecuperative then AAS.
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06-23-2004, 02:19 PM #5
I use 5-HTP about an hour before bed, gets me to sleep fast and I have lucid dreams with it.
Isn't GHB sometimes used? I've never been able to find any
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06-23-2004, 02:38 PM #6Originally Posted by big k.l.g
I remember hearing a long time ago about how certain AAS help the CNS recover from the shock of a brutal workout and get the CNS back to the point where the other systems can start repairing muscle.
As I recall, if you do a killer workout - you are shocking your CNS to the point that it takes a longer time to come out of that shock state to start repairing muscle.
Exactly what this "shock" means as far as hormone levels or whatver I never really got a good exaplantion.
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06-23-2004, 02:46 PM #7Originally Posted by UrbanDawg
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06-23-2004, 02:50 PM #8Originally Posted by Warrior
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06-23-2004, 02:51 PM #9
My theory on AAS and training:
Without AAS:
With AAS:
My ideas on supercompensation on gear... basically Stage I and II become shorter, stages III and IV longer. The fatique curve becomes less with a greater level of overcompensation from a greater anabolic environment.
Of course the degree of how much the curve is effected depends on the amount and type of gear used... BUT for reasonable use - fatigue is still a concern and overtraining on gear possible, but less likely.
From: Supercompensation Explained
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06-23-2004, 02:56 PM #10Originally Posted by Da Bull
So which would be better in recovery? Any compound via different pathways...
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06-23-2004, 02:57 PM #11
I agree warrior.....I like to bring myself to the state of acute overtraining,then back off and let my body catch up,thus spirting nice mucle growth.
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06-23-2004, 02:58 PM #12VET Retired
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Originally Posted by UrbanDawg
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06-23-2004, 03:05 PM #13Originally Posted by big k.l.g
Maybe we all need good sleping pills to max our recup
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06-23-2004, 03:14 PM #14VET Retired
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Originally Posted by UrbanDawg
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06-23-2004, 03:23 PM #15Originally Posted by UrbanDawg
This is dangerous thinking. Must we all take a pill for every little thing that ails us. Our nation is becoming a "drugged up" society. There are other ways to accomplish things than with drugs - especially sleep. For example, taking a long relaxing hot bath/shower before bed; reading a novel in bed in dim light; lighting a candle in your room and listening to relaxing music. Just my opinion.
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06-23-2004, 03:49 PM #16Originally Posted by Matto20
YEah I was kinda just being sarcastic and have no intention of depending on sleeping pills.
and melatonin never worked for me either - just made me groggy in the AM
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06-23-2004, 03:50 PM #17Originally Posted by Warrior
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06-23-2004, 06:56 PM #18Originally Posted by UrbanDawg
Yeah, I'm with you. You couldn't pay me money to take anxiety drugs - those things are ****ing evil.
I actually tried melatonin for awhile, being that it is the body's own sleep hormone, but it didn't do a whole lot for me. I have heard that melatonin taken orally doesn't work very well anyway, but I did get some pretty deep, lucid dreams.
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06-23-2004, 11:42 PM #19Originally Posted by Matto20
Those who take anxiety drugs for sleep and stress IMO are weak people. Although 10mg of Valium never killed anyone.
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06-24-2004, 02:56 PM #20Originally Posted by Toenail Juice Z
No, for your information I do have bad anxiety and used to have mild depression. I never took anti-anxiety drugs, but I have taken several anti-depressants. Some of them have scared me to death - and anti-anxiety drugs are 10x worse... especially when it comes to "coming off" of the drug. That is the reason I think anti-anxiety drugs are evil..
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