Will my natural test ever be the same

Hey guys,

About 2 yrs ago I did a mostly Deca cycle mixed w/ a little propinate.
I learned the hard way that Deca is f---ing hard on your nuts among other things..... Ever since then, seems to me that my natural test levels are extremely low. I just finished my 2nd cycle of test and equipose, liked it but didnt get great results, except my johnson and nuts seem to be like new..
I'm doing my pct ( I did with the last one too) but it doesnt seem to kick start the nuts... I only gained about 10pnds, which is fine, I just want to keep it... But more inportantly i want my natural test levels to come back ,
What is there that I can do? Is there any test I can have my Doc run?

thanks for your advice,
Sharky

Well as you know your natural test levels will usually go drop a little each year usually past age 20 until about age 45 and then its all down hill from there, What was it like before your Deca cycle? How is it now and is it just your libido that is down? I so there are some supp to help with that, try enzyte, cialis, the big V.

Yeah, i'm 32 and I guess the combo of Deca and just gettin old are both to blame, my natural test levels before the deca? I used to make great gains naturaly but again, I was younger. Libido right now sucks, I've been off the test and eq for about 2 weeks, and the libido was uncontrollable during the cycle ( Wow was the old lady loving that!). But as soon as I stopped so did the libido. Thanks for the advice on supplements, i'll give it a shot and let you know .... Thanks again Sharky

maybe you need a better then standard PCT because your body gets shut down harder then most..

viagra and calis don't do **** for test levels.. not sure abotu enzyte.

maybe extend your clomid more and throw in TRIBULS which can be bought at allsportsuntrition which owns this site at 4 grams a day... Tribulus boosts natural test levels. It was originally made to help old guys out who had low natural test levels.. perfectly safe and leggal.. one of the best supps out there IMO for body buidling and general health.


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What are you taking for your PCT?

I'm takin clomid and a little nolva...

oh ya if you find AAS shuts u down realy hard and it makes for a hard recovery then next cycle you do plan it out with this knowldge in mind.. use HCG and TRIBULUS thruough the cycle and you will find your recovery much eaiser

When I was at my biggest on gear I was using 2g's of test and 1800mg of decca as my base per week. Then one day after a bench set my left arm started burning and I felt like I had a weight on my chest the size of me. I was in the midst of a heart attack. In the hospital I was given nothing for post cycle and after that my mini-me hasn't been the same. With HRT the libido has come back to close to normal levels but I cant last worth a **** before I'm done. Did the decca do this? Dont know. Do I suspect it did? You betcha.

HCG shots!!!! That will mke them puppys drop. I hate to tell you this but it is very easy to hold 10pounds of water(pump) while on cycle. You must not have been eating right or something. If you tried to eat clean of do an atkins diet or something. You basically took steroids for no reason.

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Originally Posted by AdamK

Well as you know your natural test levels will usually go drop a little each year usually past age 20 until about age 45 and then its all down hill from there, What was it like before your Deca cycle? How is it now and is it just your libido that is down? I so there are some supp to help with that, try enzyte, cialis, the big V.

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Actually that is incorrect. Clinical research shows in most adult mailes your natural test levels start to decline .3% per year after the age of 30 I've also read they don't start to decline until the age of 40). Normal levels of testosterone fall between 250 and 800 nanograms of testosterone per deciliter of blood (or 300-1,000ng/dl depending on which study you read).

Athletes who need strength should have 800ng/dl or higher to optimize strength gains, hasten recovery and to have the aggressive drive to compete. Unfortunately, the average drug-free athlete is probably somewhere around 500ng/dl, which is too low.

Do a google search and read clinical studies bro ... you'll learn a lot. Good luck!!!

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so your balls only shrink on a cycle and them come back to normal afterward?? I am researching before I use steroids. If your balls shrink to little peanuts, then why would anyone want to do steroids? unless they grow back to normal size. What about your weiner? does that shrink too??

the shaft stays just fine (at least for me). depends on your own body and steroids your taking whether your nuts shrink up. you can take hcg and the boys will drop back down in no time.

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Originally Posted by little-one

so your balls only shrink on a cycle and them come back to normal afterward?? I am researching before I use steroids. If your balls shrink to little peanuts, then why would anyone want to do steroids? unless they grow back to normal size. What about your weiner? does that shrink too??

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Yes, your balls (not your "weiner") MIGHT shrink depending on the person and the cycle ran. The sex drive is through the roof when on test though, and yes, they come back after the cycle is over if you do PCT correctly. Why would anyone want to do steroids? To be a frickin ripped monster, of course!

Your test level will be back after the cycle if you did you PCT right. If you didn't than you could have problems.

ur levels will never be the same if u didnt take the pct's right? I figured that it just might take longer. Eventually they have to come back to normal levels, no?