have gear, what next?

[Chef]

i have 6000mg test-cyp and 4000mg deca -nandro..how should i cycle these? do i need to add anything like clomid and if so, when?

[BUYLONGTERM]

HELL YES, you need to have clomid along with Nolva, etc...Bro, slow down and do some serious research.

[rhapsody]

how long u been training?

[kronik]

i have 6000mg test-cyp and 4000mg deca-nandro..how should i cycle these? do i need to add anything like clomid and if so, when?

Research...

[Chef]

ive been training for 2 years. the fact is, ive done a lot of research with many different opinions. some say i need clomid during, some say after my cycle. some say i need nolva and clomid? thats why im here to find some truth and understanding of it all.

[kronik]

ive been training for 2 years. the fact is, ive done a lot of research with many different opinions. some say i need clomid during, some say after my cycle. some say i need nolva and clomid? thats why im here to find some truth and understanding of it all.

Clomid is for pct only, and yes you can use nolva during a cycle but also use it for PCT too. You can use nolva at 10mg ED during cycle and increase to 20mg during PCT.

[BUYLONGTERM]

Nolva during, clomid after...It's a must especially when running DECA ...

[Chef]

thanks kronik-
could you help me map out my course of action?

[UnNaturalBuff]

get your nolva and clomid before ya start and you should be cool, its a must with all cycles. Take the nolva ed, I've heard ppl say 10-20mgs a day (personally I'm doing 10)and up it if you have any problems like itchy nipples or puffyness. Then start your clomid 14 days after your last test inject, not too sure on the wait time with deca ? run the clomid for 3 weeks to help keep your gains and get your body back to normal levels.
Good luck bro(make sure you get your nolva and clomid be for you start!!)

[Chef]

im not starting anything until my plan and gear are correctly in place. i really appreciate all the feed back from everyone..

[BUYLONGTERM]

heres an excellent link by one of our MODS Pheedno. This should totally help you out

http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?...ht=pheedno+PCT

[zx7racing]

thats the only way to do it... do some research on nolva and clomid-
personally, i begin nolva therapy about a week before my cycle starts @ 10mg ed. i'm guessing this is your first cycle, so i wll go ahead and say, why not save the deca for the next go round? you'll grow plenty off running test only your first time....
and you should learn up on bromo and b6 for pregesterone induced gyno from the deca...
good luck & stay safe

im not starting anything until my plan and gear are correctly in place. i really appreciate all the feed back from everyone..

[Tryin2getHUGE]

just do your research bro and SLOW DOWN before you kill yourself

[kronik]

For a good beginner cycle you could try this:

Weeks 1-12 250mg Test cyp E4D
Weeks 1-14 10mg nolva ED and increase to 20mg ED during PCT
Start Clomid 18 days after last cyp inject.

If you decide to use the deca use it weeks 1-11 and you might want to use vit b-6 throught cycle and PCT at 200mg ED to help keep prolactin levels in check...

[Chef]

so, for my beginner cycle-

Test every 4th day @ 250mg for 12 weeks.
Nolva everyday @ 10mg for 14 weeks and up to 20mg ed for PCT

how much of the deca and b-6 should i take?

[kronik]

so, for my beginner cycle-

Test every 4th day @ 250mg for 12 weeks.
Nolva everyday @ 10mg for 14 weeks and up to 20mg ed for PCT

how much of the deca and b-6 should i take?

Sorry bro but it is time for me to cut the cord so to speak...If you dont research you want know what or why you are doing it or taking it...

[Chef]

isnt this a forum? to conduct research? im trying to seek out the correct info.

[KAEW44]

Go to the website homepage www.anabolicreview.com then once you agree to conditions and enter look at the list of items on the left hand side...steroid cycles are there, they have beginner cycles to advance cycles..they will tell you exactly what to take and how to do the PCT, use it as a guideline.

[BUYLONGTERM]

isnt this a forum? to conduct research? im trying to seek out the correct info.

Yes, but there is a ton of info you can look through. We aren't trying to be dicks, but you will learn so much more by using the search button.

[Chef]

thanks everybody for your time, concern, and info.

[kronik]

isnt this a forum? to conduct research? im trying to seek out the correct info.

Yes it is but if the cycle is laid out for you all you will do is run it and not know anything about it...researching is in your/our best interest...

[Tryin2getHUGE]

yeah bro for real........... the bro's have been nice thus far, but its a little irritating when people do NOT do their research when the amount of info here is CRAZY. We are more than happy to HELP you, but not do it for you.

[Chef]

i understand and agree 100%. ive been researching every page on the net and i think my eyes are crossing. i have learned a lot, but many of the example cycless dont give you the exacts. i guess being a chef makes me a fact finder. the gear i bought was prescribed for me, but the doctors dont tell you anything once its delivered, you know what i mean? again, thanks for all your help and i do apprecaite a no BS approach to a serious matter such as gear.

[BUYLONGTERM]

thanks everybody for your time, concern, and info.

NP bro, thats what we are here for!

Best of luck,

BLT

[Tryin2getHUGE]

YOU GOT IT bro........ just research on the homepage and put something together, and know a little about what you are putting into your body, then let us critique it. Good luck bro and welcome aboard.

[BUYLONGTERM]

i understand and agree 100%. ive been researching every page on the net and i think my eyes are crossing. i have learned a lot, but many of the example cycless dont give you the exacts. i guess being a chef makes me a fact finder. the gear i bought was prescribed for me, but the doctors dont tell you anything once its delivered, you know what i mean? again, thanks for all your help and i do apprecaite a no BS approach to a serious matter such as gear.

Well, trust me when I say this. This is the only board you will need for info. We have the most knowlegable bro's around. We also have Dr's on the board to help you as well........

[Chef]

i think im going to try the novice cycle #1-2 on the main page. but i have 1 question about it, it says 300-500mg of test per week and 200-400mg deca per week. do i take them both in one shot per week are a little everyday?

[Chef]

is there a chemical differance between arimidex and nolvadex ?

[kronik]

is there a chemical differance between arimidex and nolvadex?

2 totally different compounds...

[kronik]

Read this bro i will help: INFO: How to choose a good anti-e or anti-e combination.

[Chef]

now were getting somewhere. nolva is used to block the estrogen that is made from the test turning into estrogen. so nolvadex would be a good idea for to take. the clomid is used to jump start my natural test during PCT..am i getting close?

[kronik]

now were getting somewhere. nolva is used to block the estrogen that is made from the test turning into estrogen. so nolvadex would be a good idea for to take. the clomid is used to jump start my natural test during PCT..am i getting close?

correct me friend...now you see what a little reading can do, if would have told you just to take you would not know why..keep reading bro..

[Tryin2getHUGE]

absolutely............ you can take the deca and test in the same tube, but use different pins. also inject the test eod, and run the nolva the entire time at 20mg ed and then during your pct along WITH clomid

[Chef]

one question still remains. do i take 1 dose a week of the test and deca based on the mg per week? or do i take a small dose daily?

[Tryin2getHUGE]

depends on the test for EOD or not and IMO the deca is run 2x week

[Chef]

so split my test to every other day, and once a week the total deca , which can be in the same tube, change needles?

[kronik]

one question still remains. do i take 1 dose a week of the test and deca based on the mg per week? or do i take a small dose daily?

Test prop is to be shot ED, Test E and Cyp E4D, what test do you have? Most likely E or cyp..

[Chef]

ive got cyp

[BUYLONGTERM]

your running CYP correct? It only needs to be shot 2 times a week along with the DECA .

[kronik]

so split my test to every other day, and once a week the total deca, which can be in the same tube, change needles?

Same pin as test, and it is best to shoot deca twice weekly...