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    Next cycle ideas, input needed

    I've done some more research and I'm fairly confident that I've got a winner here but more advice is always welcome.

    Current cycle (first):
    Weeks 1-4: Dbol 30mg /day
    Weeks 1-10: Test E 500mg /week
    PCT

    I'm only on week 3 so far but my PO box lease will run out before I'm ready to start #2 so I'd rather not pay for it again if I can get my gear now and put it aside. So heres my idea for my 2nd cycle which will be less of a bulker and more focused on quality gains. After this I'll be about where I want to stay as far as my size goes so any cycle afterwards will be to help maintain or work on symetry.

    Weeks 1-4: Dbol 40mg /day
    Weeks 1-12: Test E 500mg /week
    Weeks 1-10: Tren E 400mg /week
    PCT

    I haven't experianced any sides from the dbol so far, I love the stuff and don't think I'd have any trouble with 40mg /day. I don't think I need 600mg Test E do I? And 400mg should be enough Tren E? Thats about equal to 50mg Tren A /day?

    Hows it look?

    Stats:
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    194lbs (180lbs when I started this cycle)
    8% bf (dbol water is pushing it up atm, was 6% when I started)
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    Weeks 1-10: Test E 500mg /day...you going pro?

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    i think he meant 500mg / week. at least thats what he has it in his 2nd cycle. it looks alright, except i prob wouldnt have used an oral for my first cycle. ur 2nd cycle looks good IMO. just make sure u use nolv and ldex throughout, and use nolv, ldex, and clomid dor PCT...good luck bro!

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    Yeah I meant /week

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    just a thought...for ur 2nd cycle u might want to run the test @ 700mg/week, and the tren E @ 500mg/week.

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    hmm id save tren for a bit later, unless you're sure your ready

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    I'm adding tren e into my next cycle as well. i calulated how much tren i got from the acetate ester @ 75mg ed (575mg) wk and applied it to the enanthate ester so i'd be getting the close to the same amount of tren with the enanthate as if a was using the acetate......but it is not you have to do IMO

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    75mg ed comes out to 525mg for the week (if ur counting a week to be 7 days)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDog3497
    75mg ed comes out to 525mg for the week (if ur counting a week to be 7 days)
    yeah my bad, thanks

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    I have access to 200mg and 250mg test e so I can do either 500, 600 or 750, should I up the dose to help with the shut down from the tren ?

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    yeah...tren will shut you down...going 100mgs test day...and 75mgs tren a day seems to be the best radio...are you set on test e...you might like prop better

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    Not 100% set, I'm just not experianced with many injection sites which is why I haven't commited to prop

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-Cent
    Not 100% set, I'm just not experianced with many injection sites which is why I haven't commited to prop
    test e used with letrozole or mabye anastrozole can give the same results as prop without all the damm pain of prop.

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    So then 500mg Tren E and 600mg Test E or 750mg?

    Quote Originally Posted by Latimus
    yeah...tren will shut you down...going 100mgs test day...and 75mgs tren a day seems to be the best radio...are you set on test e...you might like prop better

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