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Thread: 1st cycle overkill?
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06-23-2004, 10:32 PM #1
1st cycle overkill?
23 years old. 5' 10'', 186 lbs., 9%.
first cycle consists of:
Test E. - 500mg/week 1-13 weeks
EQ or Deca - 400mg/week 1-12 weeks
Dbol - 30mg/day 1-4 weeks
PCT - clomid/nolva
was wondering if cycle above is an overkill for first time. debating weather or not to lower the dosage on the eq/deca to 200-300mg or throw it out of the cycle all together since it will be my first time around. was also thinking about just Test and Eq/deca without the dbol. as far as goals, i want to pack on at least 20 pounds of mass. looking forward to hitting the 200 pound mark and beyond. btw, great site. any feedback would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
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06-23-2004, 10:35 PM #2Originally Posted by Pump101
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06-23-2004, 10:35 PM #3VET Retired
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Not IMO bro i ran fina+test my first time out a big "no no"... what anti-e are you using on cycle?
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06-23-2004, 10:37 PM #4
I say its too much.
My 1st cycle was 250mg Test E every 5 days for 12 weeks(350mg/wk)...anti-e's...and clomid for pct.
I put on 25 and kept 18. As long as your diet/training/rest are right...youll grow just like I did.
Eating is the hardest part of BBing without a doubt.
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06-23-2004, 10:37 PM #5VET Retired
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Originally Posted by Lord
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06-23-2004, 10:42 PM #6Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Pump101
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06-23-2004, 10:47 PM #7
i am trying my first cycle soon and im just going to run test e and eq. i suggest you do too.
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06-23-2004, 10:48 PM #8VET Retired
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Originally Posted by kronik
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06-23-2004, 11:05 PM #9
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06-24-2004, 01:03 AM #10
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06-24-2004, 01:23 AM #11Originally Posted by big k.l.g
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06-24-2004, 01:38 AM #12
I am anymore recommending Deca or Equipoise for any cycle including a first cycle. If you have a problem with anything it would probally be the Dbol . Just keep in mind that if you have never cycled it wont take much to make you grow.
300-400mg of test
300-400mg of deca
And you should grow like a weed if you eat all day long!! Just remeber it doesnt take a crazy cycle to stimulate growth.
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06-24-2004, 02:18 AM #13Originally Posted by the dent depot
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06-24-2004, 02:21 AM #14
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06-24-2004, 03:32 AM #15Member
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jus use test cuz u dont know what ur body will react to ....for example if u get gyno u wont know what it is from the deca (progesteron) or the test or dbol (estrogen) or if ur body does sumthing crazy how would u know what steroid caused it, maybe its the test, maybe it the deca, maybe its the dbol. save the deca and dbol for a hardcore bulkin cycle in the winter. because i doubt ur gonna want to get all bloated for summer.
oh crap i didnt see ur last post there about using eq but still has the same kinda idea
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06-24-2004, 07:06 AM #16
yea i agree, just use test mate, dont bother with the rest yet...no need
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06-24-2004, 07:18 AM #17
My first cycle was a 10 weeker with the same compounds your using and same doses and it was great i gained 24lbs and lost 7lbs after pct up to this day and im off now almost 4 months so i dont if i was you id go for it.
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06-24-2004, 12:45 PM #18
He said dhe was gonna take test/equipoise . How many here has ever had adverse reaction to EQ???????? I think one collagen sythesis stimulating drug is needed in every cycle.
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06-24-2004, 03:13 PM #19
good but drop the dbol for a 1st cycle
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06-24-2004, 03:23 PM #20
It's your first cycle. That's 1.11 grams of steroids you're planning on pumping into your veins each week.
You know, you can lift naturally (that being having only 40-70 mg/wk of test in your bloodstream) and still make good gains.
1.11 grams.
.070 grams.
do you see at all what i'm trying to say?
why not try .350 grams per week? that would be roughly five times your normal testosterone output. if you can't make gains on that, you can't make gains period...
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06-24-2004, 03:33 PM #21Originally Posted by Matto20
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06-24-2004, 03:55 PM #22
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06-24-2004, 03:59 PM #23
That was a good example!!! Epecially what would his future cycles look like if first one was that much??
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06-24-2004, 04:12 PM #24
Test and Dbol gets my vote. It was my first cycle that used an injectable. Well actually it was Sus but same difference.
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06-24-2004, 05:07 PM #25
use the test?/eq. You should be very happy with the results,or test by itself will probably give you good results also if your diet is right.
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06-24-2004, 06:23 PM #26
why not see how your body reacts to the test first before you run any dbol . then, add a new compound (dbol, if you please) to your next cycle to see how you react to that. and so on and so on, that way you can gradually learn which compounds work best for your body.
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06-24-2004, 06:47 PM #27
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06-24-2004, 06:49 PM #28Anabolic Member
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test only imo
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