Cycle question

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 08:56 AM

I know this should be posted in PCT Forum guys, but I need opinions a.s.a.p. for source purposes. Please critque the PCT please if needed.. Thanks again!! :-)

Here is my cycle and here is my PCT. How does it look? Thanks

1 - 12 SuperTest 250 (2.5cc wk/ spaced out through injections EOD)
1 - 11 Deca QV-300 (2 injections of 1cc each per week)
1 - 14 Nolva 20mg ED
1 - 14 Vitamin B6 200mg ED
1 - 14 Vitamin B12 1000mcg ED

PCT
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500 mcg B12
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12

and B5 as needed for acne AFTER pct

Thanks

**itsallmental** · 06-26-2004, 09:01 AM

i dunt understand the equation on how much test your shooting. 250 mg's EOD?
and as for the pct, you run 300 mg's day 1, 100 mg's days 2-11. 50 mg's day 12-21. no need to coast it at 100 for the rest of the 3 weeks.

on nm i got it, your gonna be running 625 mg's of test with the deca , is this your first cycle?

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 09:05 AM

ok sweet. the test is either .833 or .625 EOD depending on the days of the week (3 or 4 - M,W,F,Su....Tu,Th,Sa). And is that for the Clomid (your response?)

**map200uk** · 06-26-2004, 09:06 AM

PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

**itsallmental** · 06-26-2004, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by map200uk

PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

now your confusing him, just run the clomid how it was meant to be ran, 300/100/50 instead of 100 all the way through.

**itsallmental** · 06-26-2004, 09:08 AM

im guessing your test 250 has prop in it right? whats the mix contain?

**juiceinthehood** · 06-26-2004, 09:11 AM

supertest same as sus250 its from tornel its very underdosed

**itsallmental** · 06-26-2004, 09:12 AM

****, is this your first cycle tryin2gethuge?

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 09:13 AM

Is the l-dex really necessary with the nolva and clomid?

**itsallmental** · 06-26-2004, 09:14 AM

no, is this your first cycle?

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by itsallmental

****, is this your first cycle tryin2gethuge?

Yeah why

**itsallmental** · 06-26-2004, 09:16 AM

i knew it would be. out of curiosity, why are you running so much test and deca ?625/600 mg's right?

drop the deca, and lower the amount of test you take in. 500 mg's would be fine for a first cycle. i ran 300/350 mg's of test myself as a first cycle and gained 28 off it, its all in your diet and training.i ran no other compounds other than test for my first cycle, no nolva, no b6, and suffered no sides.

people always make the mistake of running more than 1 compound on a first cycle.

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 09:21 AM

I was running the test higher because of ALL the research that I did said to run it higher. Also, I have heard and read from about everyone that that the SuperTest is usually underdosed. So even at 625mg week, it is more like 500 mg week (20% underdosed). And the deca is QV so also said to be underdosed. I have winny and dbol as well that I am NOT taking because its too much for a first, but I am running the nolva and b6 for sides, and the b12 for appetite. Week 4 today and no sides. My diet is awesome and hittin the gym hard - gained 13 3/8lbs in first 3 weeks

**itsallmental** · 06-26-2004, 09:26 AM

alright well what in the h3ll are you asking us for?if you would of researched, you would of came to the conclusion that theres no need for deca on a first cycle. you also would of found out how complex testosterone really is, and to run it alone as a first cycle would be showing you what its responsible for. how are you ever gonna know what compound is causing the side effects your experiencing?compounds such as supertest250 and sust250, are not intended for beginner steroid users. your getting an insufficient amount of test prop to barely do anything if your shoot .625 cc's EOD. you should of bought a single ester like cyp or enthanate.

jeezus, if your on week 4 and you think your doing fine dont bother asking.

**kronik** · 06-26-2004, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by itsallmental

now your confusing him, just run the clomid how it was meant to be ran, 300/100/50 instead of 100 all the way through.

He is using MudMan's PCT...

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by itsallmental

alright well what in the h3ll are you asking us for?if you would of researched, you would of came to the conclusion that theres no need for deca on a first cycle. you also would of found out how complex testosterone really is, and to run it alone as a first cycle would be showing you what its responsible for. how are you ever gonna know what compound is causing the side effects your experiencing?compounds such as supertest250 and sust250, are not intended for beginner steroid users. your getting an insufficient amount of test prop to barely do anything if your shoot .625 cc's EOD. you should of bought a single ester like cyp or enthanate.

jeezus, if your on week 4 and you think your doing fine dont bother asking.

I dont think I am doing fine bro, I am just asking because of the research that I did, this is what I came up with.....From reading and researching and posting and asking questions. Thats what I am asking..... 1)is the PCT ok and if I need to change something then I can because its still early in the cycle.

I am asking you guys because you know better than I do. If you want to get frustrated thats cool, but I am just asking Opinions and advice. Thanks.

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 09:40 AM

I just want to make sure the PCT is cool and if I need anything else. Also, a lot of people are saying to use l-dex and drop the nolva to 10mg ED. What is your take on that?

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 09:48 AM

either that PCT or Phedno's :

PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

**v-force700** · 06-26-2004, 11:05 AM

SuperTest 250 is very underdosed.
...V

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 12:23 PM

OK bro's............ so this:

PCT
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500 mcg B12
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12

and B5 as needed for acne AFTER pct

or this:

Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva

Thanks

**daos** · 06-26-2004, 12:41 PM

well, i am doing something even more simple than this. after my cyp/deca at 400/300, im going to hit 10000i.u. of HCG every 4 days for 2 weeks. i think that should be sufficent. nolvadex is at my side in case of emergency, but i do not think its a manditory for PCT, or is it?

**kronik** · 06-26-2004, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by daos

well, i am doing something even more simple than this. after my cyp/deca at 400/300, im going to hit 10000i.u. of HCG every 4 days for 2 weeks. i think that should be sufficent. nolvadex is at my side in case of emergency, but i do not think its a manditory for PCT, or is it?

Start a new thread and we can start this sh*t all over again...

Yes nolva is needed and BTW so is clomid one other thing HCG is not a replacement for proper PCT...

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by kronik

Start a new thread and we can start this sh*t all over again...

Yes nolva is needed and BTW so is clomid one other thing HCG is not a replacement for proper PCT...

You are such a "Good Sport" Kronik

What I was saying was about the pct, I am gonna run the clomid and nolva, but one look at the 2 here. The one has l-dex and clomid the entire time, the other does not. Both were suggested but I am getting opinions on which one would be better. Look below:

PCT
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500 mcg B12
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12

and B5 as needed for acne AFTER pct

or this:

Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva (pluss all viamins above)

**kronik** · 06-26-2004, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE

You are such a "Good Sport" Kronik

What I was saying was about the pct, I am gonna run the clomid and nolva, but one look at the 2 here. The one has l-dex and clomid the entire time, the other does not. Both were suggested but I am getting opinions on which one would be better. Look below:

PCT
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500 mcg B12
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12

and B5 as needed for acne AFTER pct

or this:

Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva (pluss all viamins above)

You can add the L-dex at .25mg ED to the first one and you'll be fine, or you could do the second one, which I think is Pheedno's. There is not a huge difference between the 2 if you really look at it...

**Tryin2getHUGE** · 06-26-2004, 03:19 PM

thats true... Not a huge difference. Yeah the second one is Pheedno's. So the first would look like this then:

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500 mcg B12
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12

Days 1 - 37 0.25mg ED l-dex

and B5 as needed for acne AFTER pct

**kronik** · 06-26-2004, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Tryin2getHUGE

thats true... Not a huge difference. Yeah the second one is Pheedno's. So the first would look like this then:

Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500 mcg B12
Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12
Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / 200mg B6 / 500mcg B12

Days 1 - 37 0.25mg ED l-dex

and B5 as needed for acne AFTER pct

Looks good...