Alright ma brothers- i have a good friend who after yrs of natural training is starting his cycle- hes 23 6'5 and about 115kgs, he has an excellent base to work off and trains 4 times a week. I have recommended he go with test only for 12 weeks- do you think throwing in d-bol or even deca is adviseable, i know i got great gains off test only but i wasnt as big as him when i started!