what do you think of this for a first cycle

stat 175lbs, 6'0
solid bulk gains minimul bloat, hoping for 190-195lbs

Primoteston depot 300mg wk1-10 (MAYBE bump to 400)
andriol 280mg ED (7 caps) wk1-4
nolva 10mg ed wk1-10
plus clomid pct ofcourse.

rip it apart please :)

Why use the adriol?You have to take a sh!t load of the stuff,and really get nothing from it.Plus it gets pricey as well.Why not jump start with Dbol?

primotest 300mg? not enuff imo

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Originally Posted by Da Bull

Why use the adriol?You have to take a sh!t load of the stuff,and really get nothing from it.Plus it gets pricey as well.Why not jump start with Dbol?

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I must agree with DB. Andriol is fukkin expensive the more you take. Compared to dbol on a mg to mg base, dbol is WAAAAY more effective the andriol. If you're concerned about water bloat take 10mg nolva and .25mg ldex throughout. Or if you could take var instead of dbol or andriol. Also the primotest should be atleast 500mg EW split into 2 shots of 250mg, IMO.

First off, andriol is a oral version of Test. Why would you not just give yourself a little more cyp??

400mg of Cyp for 10-12 weeks along with a solid PCT, Diet, and training program will yield very dramitc results.

I took Primo and winny my first cycle for 6 weeks and I gained 22lbs!

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Originally Posted by LAWNSAVER

First off, andriol is a oral version of Test. Why would you not just give yourself a little more cyp??

400mg of Cyp for 10-12 weeks along with a solid PCT, Diet, and training program will yield very dramitc results.

I took Primo and winny my first cycle for 6 weeks and I gained 22lbs!

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i agree with lawnsaver. andriol is probably the most overpriced drug for the gains that you get.

yeah i might drop the andriol. ill definately bump the primotest(test enanthate). ive done some more math and am thinking ill go with this

primoteston depot (enanthate) 400mg wk1-12
nolva 10mg ED
clomid therapy

the andriol is kinda expensive. to run that amount for 4 weeks was going to work out to a little under 2$AU (1.40$US) a tab. so about 250$US 180 tabs

everything is pretty expensive here. sometimes rediculous.
but i think ill go with what i got above. extend for 2 weeks and bump up the test.

why not run eq or deca with it maybe even primo

Buddy of mine ran 8 caps per day and put on all dry weight 20 pounds in 6 weeks 300mg deca stack though so i cant say it was the andriol alone

andriol supprised me in the lean hard gain made though.