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    What cycle gave you the most mass???

    Let's take a look at cycles and pct for keeping gains. What cycle along with pct gave you the most gains and allowed you to keep them???

    500mg (test e) ew 4-15
    400mg (deca ) ew 1-15
    50mg (dbol ) ed 1-6
    100mg (winny) 6-15
    hgh (4iu ed) 1-15
    slin (10ui ed post w/o 2wks on 2 wks off)

    pct
    1000 iu (hcg ) ed 2weeks on 2 weeks off
    nolva ed 10mg 1-15
    clomid run w/hcg 50mg thru wk 12
    creatine week 14 till next cycle

    Gained 25 pounds and kept 18 pounds

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    TTT..common guys

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    50mg dbol 1-4
    750mg ene 1-14
    600 mg eq 1-12 (I dont think eq is that great)
    10-14 igf @ 50mcg pwo

    I gained about 25 ended up at about keeping 15 ( I really kicked up the cardio at the end I didnt loose much strength)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    Let's take a look at cycles and pct for keeping gains. What cycle along with pct gave you the most gains and allowed you to keep them???

    500mg (test e) ew 4-15
    400mg (deca ) ew 1-15
    50mg (dbol ) ed 1-6
    100mg (winny) 6-15
    hgh (4iu ed) 1-15
    slin (10ui ed post w/o 2wks on 2 wks off)

    pct
    1000 iu (hcg ) ed 2weeks on 2 weeks off
    nolva ed 10mg 1-15
    clomid run w/hcg 50mg thru wk 12
    creatine week 14 till next cycle

    Gained 25 pounds and kept 18 pounds


    Hey how come you started your test at week 4?

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    1-24 test enth 500
    1-23 EQ 400
    16-24 50mg var day
    GH 4iu throughout
    slin 10iu a day every other month
    there's something about the synergistic effects of a c-17, test,eq and GH and slin
    that has had me growing more than I was on much higher doses on more supposed
    bulking juices.......

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    my last winter bulker -

    anavar 40 mg/day of british dragon for 8 weeks.
    ran creatine, tribulis, policosanol, ala, and yohimburn, among other ancillaries.
    ran standard clomid PCT

    gained 20 pounds and maintained body composition (along with insane strength gains)
    no sides whatsoever

    bulking is all about that diet baby!

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    Cuz Bro....

    Quote Originally Posted by cpt steele
    Hey how come you started your test at week 4?
    Ran D-bol for 6 weeks and it takes test about 2 weeks to kick in.

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    Bro......

    Quote Originally Posted by Matto20
    my last winter bulker -

    anavar 40 mg/day of british dragon for 8 weeks.
    ran creatine, tribulis, policosanol, ala, and yohimburn, among other ancillaries.
    ran standard clomid PCT

    gained 20 pounds and maintained body composition (along with insane strength gains)
    no sides whatsoever

    bulking is all about that diet baby!
    Just think if you would have added some deca ....dayum

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    Just think if you would have added some deca....dayum
    **** DECA !!!!

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    Why???

    Quote Originally Posted by Matto20
    **** DECA!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    If anything I would have added a small dose of primo or a small dose of test to the cycle (ala 250 mg/wk enanthate ). To add just deca to the cycle would make no sense, IMO. The way the anavar worked alone was juuuust fine...


    PS - I'm not a deca fan, sorry if I offended your beloved compound!

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    Sorry Bro!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Matto20
    If anything I would have added a small dose of primo or a small dose of test to the cycle (ala 250 mg/wk enanthate ). To add just deca to the cycle would make no sense, IMO. The way the anavar worked alone was juuuust fine...


    PS - I'm not a deca fan, sorry if I offended your beloved compound!
    I missread your post....I thought you wrote D-bol...not Anavar....However, IMO...anavar alone is kinda like a womans cycle...no offense

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    However, IMO...anavar alone is kinda like a womans cycle...no offense
    Your opinion sounds kind of uneducated and ignorant, IMO. No offense.

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    Well we will see what the boys have to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matto20
    Your opinion sounds kind of uneducated and ignorant, IMO. No offense.
    Let me see....Oral only...or Injection only....hmmmmmm

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    1-4 dbol 30mg ed
    1-14 test cyp 600mg
    1-14 eq 500mg
    15-18 prop 75mg ed
    12-18 winni 60mg ed
    gained around 28lbs
    kept 20lbs looked great that was a long time ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    Let me see....Oral only...or Injection only....hmmmmmm
    I agree with you bro....I know matto loves VAR,probably because that's all he's ever done and feel in love with it.That's all he seems to preach here.He's anti using anything else.Good forbid someone wants to use slin!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    Let me see....Oral only...or Injection only....hmmmmmm

    Are you trying to prove some sort of point with that remark? If you are, I'd really rather not hear it. I think you've proven to me how much you know after you advised me to add deca to what you thought was my "dbol only cycle". WTF, dude? And that "woman's cycle" that you referred to added 20 clean pounds and awesome strength.

    Perhaps the real reason you gave me crap about my cycle in the first place had to do with it's results compared to yours. I mean, I ran 40 mg/day of oxandrolone for 8 weeks and gained twenty pounds. That is 280 mg/wk of anabolics - .280 grams of steroids IN MY VEINS for 8 weeks and I gained and kept 20 pounds. YOU, on the other hand, ran this monster of a cycle and only wound up keeping 18 pounds:

    500mg (test e) ew 4-15
    400mg (deca) ew 1-15
    50mg (dbol) ed 1-6
    100mg (winny) 6-15
    hgh (4iu ed) 1-15
    slin (10ui ed post w/o 2wks on 2 wks off)

    christ, that means, for example, in weeks six of your cycle you shot 1950 mg of steroids into your veins. 1.950 grams compared to my .280 grams.

    furthermore, you ran HGH at 4 iu ed and slin as well. and you STILL didn't even gain as much weight as i did on my measly little "woman's cycle"...

    maybe i'd be upset if i were you too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
    dont say the S word
    Bwahahahahahahahaha........you apparently have read his posts also.

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    And he wonders.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    I agree with you bro....I know matto loves VAR,probably because that's all he's ever done and feel in love with it.That's all he seems to preach here.He's anti using anything else.Good forbid someone wants to use slin!!!!
    And he wonders why his girl friend can beat him in arm wrestling....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    Let me see....Oral only...or Injection only....hmmmmmm

    I agree with jbigdog69... oral only.. not a good choice and yes it was doing orals i would stack it with an injectable FOR sure..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    Bwahahahahahahahaha........you apparently have read his posts also.
    yeah I have and its funny as hell
    a needle is your friend bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    I agree with you bro....I know matto loves VAR,probably because that's all he's ever done and feel in love with it.That's all he seems to preach here.He's anti using anything else.Good forbid someone wants to use slin!!!!
    I've used test, var, primo, eq, m1t, and 7a-OHN.

    I preach low dose test, primo, and var, FYI.

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    matto post your pics to back up what your saying.. id like proof

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    And he wonders why his girl friend can beat him in arm wrestling....lol
    LOL



    see my post above. it is you who should be embarassed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by H-BOL
    matto post your pics to back up what your saying.. id like proof
    I will scan some when I go back to school in the fall. I don't have any way of scanning or uploading any pictures right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by H-BOL
    matto post your pics to back up what your saying.. id like proof
    agreed, or what are your stats?

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    I'm sure there is a little difference bud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matto20
    Are you trying to prove some sort of point with that remark? If you are, I'd really rather not hear it. I think you've proven to me how much you know after you advised me to add deca to what you thought was my "dbol only cycle". WTF, dude? And that "woman's cycle" that you referred to added 20 clean pounds and awesome strength.

    Perhaps the real reason you gave me crap about my cycle in the first place had to do with it's results compared to yours. I mean, I ran 40 mg/day of oxandrolone for 8 weeks and gained twenty pounds. That is 280 mg/wk of anabolics - .280 grams of steroids IN MY VEINS for 8 weeks and I gained and kept 20 pounds. YOU, on the other hand, ran this monster of a cycle and only wound up keeping 18 pounds:

    500mg (test e) ew 4-15
    400mg (deca) ew 1-15
    50mg (dbol) ed 1-6
    100mg (winny) 6-15
    hgh (4iu ed) 1-15
    slin (10ui ed post w/o 2wks on 2 wks off)

    christ, that means, for example, in weeks six of your cycle you shot 1950 mg of steroids into your veins. 1.950 grams compared to my .280 grams.

    furthermore, you ran HGH at 4 iu ed and slin as well. and you STILL didn't even gain as much weight as i did on my measly little "woman's cycle"...

    maybe i'd be upset if i were you too...
    I gained 40 pounds off of my first cycle...Also...I am pushing 260lbs "dude"...I got an idea...put up or shut up...post a pic and let us see what massive gains you obtained with you "womans cycle" and BTW the only reason I said that was not to offend you but if you do a search you will see most women just starting out use a var only cycle...Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by H-BOL
    matto post your pics to back up what your saying.. id like proof
    He's 20 years old,and can grow on nothing but diet...so i probably beleive him..but for his reguritated posts he makes..that's a whole nother story.

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    Post the pics.....

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    jaybigdog69 and DB are great bros.... both experienced and knowledgeable...

    I know little about AS compared to these bros, but I do know that Inj's are better than orals for many reasons...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    I gained 40 pounds off of my first cycle...Also...I am pushing 260lbs "dude"...I got an idea...put up or shut up...post a pic and let us see what massive gains you obtained with you "womans cycle" and BTW the only reason I said that was not to offend you but if you do a search you will see most women just starting out use a var only cycle...Peace
    Again, I'll post pics when I get back to school this fall.


    Quote Originally Posted by H-BOL
    I agree with jbigdog69... oral only.. not a good choice and yes it was doing orals i would stack it with an injectable FOR sure..
    I love how you back your statement up with nothing - no science, nada. You had really ought to start thinking "outside the lines" rather than going along with the AR crowd like a sheep, but that's not my problem - that's yours. I don't have a problem with injectables at all. In fact, I looooooove primo.

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    Oh that explains it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    He's 20 years old,and can grow on nothing but diet...so i probably beleive him..but for his reguritated posts he makes..that's a whole nother story.
    Enough said...I knew it all back then too...and that is why I lost 20 of the 40 lbs I gained. BTW...this post was merely to see what everyones different theory's were on a good bulking cycle. I would appreciate it "Matt" if you would reframe from posting BS on any of my other thread's....Thanks

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    again post your stats.....

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    Here I found them....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle
    again post your stats.....
    5' 7"
    160 lbs
    bench 185lbs
    squat 200lbs
    dead's 225lbs
    curls 25lbs (dumbell)
    20yrs old
    fukin lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    He's 20 years old,and can grow on nothing but diet...so i probably beleive him..but for his reguritated posts he makes..that's a whole nother story.
    You seem to know a lot about me... stalker.

    I'm actually 22.



    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    Enough said...I knew it all back then too...and that is why I lost 20 of the 40 lbs I gained. BTW...this post was merely to see what everyones different theory's were on a good bulking cycle. I would appreciate it "Matt" if you would reframe from posting BS on any of my other thread's....Thanks

    I think it's funny that you say this when it is YOU that takes 2 grams of anabolics per week to gain 18 measly pounds, and I can do it with only .280 grams and avoid sides altogether. So yeah, sorry for criticizing your vast and amazing steroid knowledge and intuition... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matto20
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    I'm actually 22.






    I think it's funny that you say this when it is YOU that takes 2 grams of anabolics per week to gain 18 measly pounds, and I can do it with only .280 grams and avoid sides altogether. So yeah, sorry for criticizing your vast and amazing steroid knowledge and intuition... LOL
    This post alone shows the WHOLE board what little you know about steroids and how they work long term for ppl.

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    Go away Boy you buggin me....

    Quote Originally Posted by Matto20
    You seem to know a lot about me... stalker.

    I'm actually 22.






    I think it's funny that you say this when it is YOU that takes 2 grams of anabolics per week to gain 18 measly pounds, and I can do it with only .280 grams and avoid sides altogether. So yeah, sorry for criticizing your vast and amazing steroid knowledge and intuition... LOL
    The laugh is on you Bro. We will see how much weight you can gain in LBM and maintain it when you reach 34 years old...As for me my goal is to win Mr Louisiana at 235-240lbs ripped. You are just like the rest of "The Civilians" out there. You think you can take all the different compounds and just blow up to Coleman or Cutler status. Your dead wrong Boy, it takes dedication, diet, self- control, and heavy weights. Go away!!!

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    I beat you in arm wrestling...lol...j/k....whatever you're about to say....I left the door wide open...perv away...lol

    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    And he wonders why his girl friend can beat him in arm wrestling....lol

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    Oh..look who it is...

    Quote Originally Posted by VIXI
    I beat you in arm wrestling...lol...j/k....whatever you're about to say....I left the door wide open...perv away...lol
    Are we in better mood today???

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