7 weeks in and QV may be fake?

[Kaleb]

Been taking QV Test Enanthate 250. Now everything looks fine on it. I checked the batch numbers, they are QVE 012 Exp 01/2006. Rounded corners on the label, came in box with shrink-wrap and everything. The holograms have color in them, all the signs that they are real. But now that I peeled the stickers off the bottle, there are no circles behind them. There isn't anything behind them at all actually. It just kinda peels off. WTF??

[SKiN]

At 7 weeks in you should be able to tell if its fake without lookin at the bottle.

[Kaleb]

Is the hologram on the box suppose to be on the front? Mine is on the side that says advertencia. Also my batch number and expiration are under the hologram.

[Kaleb]

My strength has gone up, put on about 12 pounds. But I don't know if that is just because of training and extra calories. I thought all QV bottles have the circles behind them.

[SKiN]

Ya all of the QV stuff I have seen had the circles behind the hologram.

[Bryan2]

12 pounds and some strength its real bro.

eq does not make you blow up as much as test would so 12 pounds sounds right.

[Kaleb]

read again big dog

[DF2003]

nothing against qv but its only ug gear unless i find human stuff for cheap.

[Kaleb]

What was the point of you posting that in this thread bro?

[SKiN]

"I Do What I Want" - Eric Cartman

[flabbywussy]

12 pounds and some strength its real bro.

eq does not make you blow up as much as test would so 12 pounds sounds right.

he didn't say eq.

[craneboy]

thats worse than gettin strait ripped off, bunk gear

[Kaleb]

Could it be just that it's a newer batch because the rest of it looks fine. Also, some other kid is taking it and has gainbed 13 pounds in 5 weeks.

[Matto20]

What is your diet and training pattern like? How many calories are you getting? You have "gained strength and 12 pounds" in 7 weeks... what were you expecting or shooting for?

[Kaleb]

3000 to 3500 cals a day. About 225 grams of protein. Expected to gain 20 pounds but have been at a stand still for the last 4 weeks.

[jmp51483]

Sounds to me like it is more of a diet issue than anything else.. How hard are you pushing yourself in the gym? Going as heavy as posisble until failure? You should be eating about 2grams of Protein per lb of Body weight

[whiteyk]

too much expectation..............did your nuts shrink....?

[senorjw]

I am running the same batch #, currently on week 6 and not seeing much either. Give me a PM.

[bluethunder]

Kaleb, im not here to judge you but why have you decided to juice at only 18yrs old? You are asking for trouble PERIOD! My guess is your training & possibly the gear is less than 100%. 12 lbs may be placebo effect. Have you gained any water?? The reason I say training is at 18 most only know how to do flat bench with some exceptions. How long have you been training?

[Matto20]

At 18 almost any guy can put on 20 pounds with a 10 week cycle of FOOD.

[Kaleb]

Your guess that my training is less than 100% is wrong. I do sets of 4-6, usually no more. I agree that it could be the placebo effect. As far as me doing it when I'm 18, you are the 100th person that has mentioned something. I've explained myself before, look up my posts. But thanks for being cool about the whole thing bro.

Kaleb

[bubbathegut]

"I Do What I Want" - Eric Cartman

screw you hippies

[bjayg]

Ya all of the QV stuff I have seen had the circles behind the hologram.

same here bro.

[SKiN]

screw you hippies

Holla

[Bryan2]

my bad about the eq

[juiceinthehood]

looks like its underdosed or your not taking enough

[Kaleb]

Taking a little bit over 1 cc every Mon and Thurs. 500 mg a week.

[SKiN]

Definately takin enough.... might wanna post your workout and diet in their respecitve forums..... Something else has to be fked up.....

[musclehead1]

I think batch 12 has a dose of 232mg really

[senorjw]

Hey bros, I'm on the same batch as kaleb, middle of week 6 and am pretty disapointed with this stuff too. BTW- this is my first cycle. I'm up 10 lbs, but this weight was gained all within the first 2 weeks and since I have leveled off. This leads me to think that the weight gain was probably due to my drastically increased caloric intake. Bodybuilding has been my life for four years, I am a.c.e. certified and have taken college nutrition courses, so dont tell me my diet or training is off because it's not. I know I should been seeing some progress by now, especially since it's my first cycle, but I'm not. Maybe I need to wait it out a little longer, but this sucks since it's a 50 ml and will be a huge waste if it is indeed bunk. Anyone else on this **** right now? Thanks - senor

[senorjw]

BTW- This **** hurts like a bitch after every injection, the first one left me practically unable to walk for a week. Isnt this a sign that the stuff is legit? What substance is usually used in fakes? Just sterile (hopefully) oil?

[legend]

qv is filthy **** . why put that **** into your body. so many guys in the gym are doing qv for weeks already and i started SL and in half the time my gains are more then double theres. lets face it boys, qv is big on the counterfeit market thses days. i can name at least 8 guys i know that got beat with qv, and all different sources.

[sp9]

qv has done me right. No problems with the multiple batches I have dealt with. QV is basically a vet company that knows there is a huge secondary market for their products. I don't think they care as long as sales are good how the stuff goes through legit hands and ends up on the black market. They do nothing wrong, but why would they want to ruin sales by selling junk when other stuff is available.

[sp9]

In 2 + years have only heard of one batch of QV enanthate that was severley underdosed. I think it was batch 007 and only 50ml if I am remebering correctly. It was so bad that sources were taking the stuff back and sending others in its place.

[jerseyboy]

I have a 50 ml bottle of QV Enth with the batch number 011 and 07/2006 expiration. I peeled back the hologram and it has the little circles behind it. The label wasn't covering the expiration.

[BIGMAN@]

I had the same batch number recently and it was filled with plain yellow veggie oil...deff a fake...it had the slits behind the hologram but the metal top that was crimped on looked slighty off compared to the other batches i got with them..somethin was fishy...it was also a yellow oil not clear like the others ...a bright yellow gold...whats the color of ur enthate?Im thinkin somehow they got the top off and drained the gear,,,

[senorjw]

mine is fairly clear, definitely not gold in color...

[Kaleb]

I've heard alot of people saying their Enanthate is yellowish. Mine isn't clear, it's yellow. Mine was completely connected by all the metal things around the stopper. **** bro, I have to take a shot tomorrow. Is it suppose to numb your tongue if you put it on?

[SKiN]

haha mine doesnt..... maybe they throw in a little coke hahhaa

[Kaleb]

Bro **** you. It's not cool when someone gets bunk gear. If you're not going to help out, don't post.