Starting to retain water - need advice

**UrbanDawg** · 06-30-2004, 08:01 PM

Im starting my 4th week of my Sig cycle - and have quit front loading prop (replaced Dbol ) so I am now on
CYP-500 EQ-500 Deca 200-300 ish. Var 40

Im retaining water and am also craving food like never before. As a result im eating more food and gettting more sodium. Thus I am getting puffy.

What is the safest natural diuretic I can use. I am concerned about using diuretics cause I know they can hurt your kidneys if you abuse them long enough.

or should I just accept the water and live with it thru the cycle ?

I really hate losing definition

**inheritmylife** · 06-30-2004, 08:19 PM

10mgs nolva and .25mg ldex/ed for starters. You can increase the nolva to 20mg/ed if need be.

Forget diuretics big man, they're counter-productive unless you are planning on competing.

**UrbanDawg** · 06-30-2004, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by inheritmylife

10mgs nolva and .25mg ldex/ed for starters. You can increase the nolva to 20mg/ed if need be.

Forget diuretics big man, they're counter-productive unless you are planning on competing.

ok - i was on 20 Nolva and .25 L-Dex but I cut the nolva in half since I ahve no gyno tendancy.

do i need to bump the nolva back up ?

**dirtdawg** · 06-30-2004, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by inheritmylife

10mgs nolva and .25mg ldex/ed for starters. You can increase the nolva to 20mg/ed if need be.

Forget diuretics big man, they're counter-productive unless you are planning on competing.

i would do 20 mgs nolva ed with .25 l dex ed

**bluethunder** · 06-30-2004, 08:28 PM

Twin labs has something called Taraxatone I used it once. But some of the best I heard was things like Midol used for womans menstrual water bloat. But im sure your not going to do that but I bet it would work..

**UrbanDawg** · 06-30-2004, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by bluethunder

Twin labs has something called Taraxatone I used it once. But some of the best I heard was things like Midol used for womans menstrual water bloat. But im sure your not going to do that but I bet it would work..

yeh- i had a bottle of taraxatone and went thru it last cycle .. it looked a liker a bunch of natural ingredients but i was not sure and had nothing to compare it to.

Will taraxatone hurt my kidneys ?

**inheritmylife** · 06-30-2004, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by UrbanDawg

Will taraxatone hurt my kidneys ?

Do a search on the FDA.

I suggest using aggresive doses of femara before ever using diuretics to slim down.

**inheritmylife** · 06-30-2004, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by inheritmylife

I suggest using aggresive doses of femara before ever using diuretics to slim down.

As in 2.5mgs/ed.

**bluethunder** · 06-30-2004, 09:00 PM

I do not know if it will hurt your kidneys. Its like anything moderation is key. I do know you need more water then otherwise your body will try to keep it.. Its the cyp thats bloating you

**ODC0717** · 06-30-2004, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by UrbanDawg

Im starting my 4th week of my Sig cycle - and have quit front loading prop (replaced Dbol ) so I am now on
CYP-500 EQ-500 Deca 200-300 ish. Var 40

Im retaining water and am also craving food like never before. As a result im eating more food and gettting more sodium. Thus I am getting puffy.

What is the safest natural diuretic I can use. I am concerned about using diuretics cause I know they can hurt your kidneys if you abuse them long enough.

or should I just accept the water and live with it thru the cycle ?

I really hate losing definition

How's the diet. I have had good success of getting rid of water with a low carb diet on cycle. By low I mean about 125-150g. ED for me and I'm 5-10, 200lbs. About every 10 days or so I carb up then go cut carbs for another 10 days and keep on cycling like that throughout the cycle. Adjust it to fit your needs. I was also doing about 30-45min. light-med. cardio ED. Hope this helps.

**sepjuice** · 06-30-2004, 10:11 PM

how much water are you drinking. it helps drinking close to a gallon a day...it really does keep the bloat down.

**peaker** · 06-30-2004, 10:57 PM

2.5mg ED of femara... that is aggressive!

**UrbanDawg** · 07-01-2004, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by sepjuice

how much water are you drinking. it helps drinking close to a gallon a day...it really does keep the bloat down.

about 1gal/D also

**Da Bull** · 07-01-2004, 09:17 AM

I wouldn't go as high as suggested on the femera,but it does keep the water off much better than l-dex tho

**inheritmylife** · 07-01-2004, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

I wouldn't go as high as suggested on the femera,but it does keep the water off much better than l-dex tho

Dont get me wrong, I would cringe to have to take that much also. 1.25/ed will kill most water from drol. At the same time, I dont think that using any kind of diuretic is a good idea.

**Da Bull** · 07-01-2004, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by inheritmylife

Dont get me wrong, I would cringe to have to take that much also. 1.25/ed will kill most water from drol. At the same time, I dont think that using any kind of diuretic is a good idea.

I agree on the diurectics issue also..but he just has some water retention from the cyp/deca ..I don't think the VAR is causing the problem.So a mild dose of femera would be fine IMO.

**inheritmylife** · 07-01-2004, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

I agree on the diurectics also..but he just has some water retention from the cyp/deca..I don't think the VAR is causing the problem.So a mild dose of femera would be fine IMO.

Yea, the only thing in there that I could see causing large amounts of water retention is the cyp.